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agcy68

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I thought that Matt and Miller summed this up pretty well.
11Sep09 - Search Warrant conducted on thier rooms by the Iowa Drug Task Force
- Apparently the ONLY thing they found was residue and seeds (this is the drug task force mind you - I am sure it was a very thorough search)
21Sep09 - Arrest Warrant issued
22Sep09 - Players turn themselves in
- Automatic suspension
23Sep09 - Players work with University brass who reviews their case and lifts the University suspension
- The Athletic department is not involved with this (at least officially)
- Student representation is involved with this.
25Sep09 - ??? Will PR lift the teams suspension ???

Matt thought from the start that the case was pretty weak (VERY limited evidence for the drug task force to get involved with) and that ISU over-reacted. Personally, I think they followed their own rules to a T and am hoping that they are right and there isn't any more to this; only time will tell.
 

agcy68

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Miller also stated that he had heard that Banks has been talking to anyone that would listen that he would offer up hair samples to be tested for drugs; ie. he is and has been clean. I am not sure about Mj, but if a person has been using, a lot of drugs can be found in hair samples; it is like a historic record.
 

Tobias

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How many people on here have possessed pot seeds?

For those that answered yes, please explain the circumstances that led to you possessing them.

Hey I was going to... start a rope farm. Yeah.... rope... hemp rope... good stuff.... rope farmer.
 

Tobias

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It sounds like there is more to this than everyone knows. I think it is fair to give the players the benefit of the doubt until everything comes out. Sounds like they had partaken in some ganja in the past but we don't know for sure. I don't see kicking them off the team for it although they probably deserve some sort of punishment for even being in that situation.

When I was in school we inherited a couch and chair from the previous tenants. One day we cleaned the couch out looking for change for a beer run and found a baggy with a little bit of weed left in it. It was mostly seeds and stems but it would probably have been enough to get us in trouble even though none of us smoked. We gave it to someone in the same apartment building which was probably not the best idea but at the time we thought nothing of it and had a good laugh at our discovery while looking for some silver.
 

trigger1

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Hey I was going to... start a rope farm. Yeah.... rope... hemp rope... good stuff.... rope farmer.

Perhaps they're changing their majors to agronomy?

Hey, my granddad grew the stuff during WWII, as (I suspect) did a few other ancestors of posters on here. Somewhere in my basement I've got a photo of him on the hemp harvester. Maybe we just need ISU to revive the old extension publication about growing hemp! (And it is making a resurgence you know.) Clothing, shopping bags. An in thing in some parts I guess.
 

CycloneErik

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You're preaching to the choir. It doesn't help the fact that there are only ~40 people in my company right now.

I always fell in that 10% as well. All the officers did.

I remember once when our BC and both of our Chaplains were selected, which is when I really learned that all officers will be picked each time. I wasn't a Christian at the time, but I said to a friend, "If the Chaplains fail this thing, I quit."
 

Tobias

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Perhaps they're changing their majors to agronomy?

Hey, my granddad grew the stuff during WWII, as (I suspect) did a few other ancestors of posters on here. Somewhere in my basement I've got a photo of him on the hemp harvester. Maybe we just need ISU to revive the old extension publication about growing hemp! (And it is making a resurgence you know.) Clothing, shopping bags. An in thing in some parts I guess.

It is a shame that the THC aspect of hemp has given the other uses kind of a bad name. Hemp is extremely durable and can make a lot of great products.
 

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Miller also stated that he had heard that Banks has been talking to anyone that would listen that he would offer up hair samples to be tested for drugs; ie. he is and has been clean. I am not sure about Mj, but if a person has been using, a lot of drugs can be found in hair samples; it is like a historic record.

Stays detectable for 30 days easy.
 

CloneIce

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If my house has pot, pot seeds and drug paraphernalia in it, I'm ok with someone assuming that I smoke pot.

I would be ok with that assumption too from a fan.

However, I damn well would expect some additional corroborating evidence in the court of law before I considered it an "open-shut case". And these three men are innocent until proven guilty of course.
 

fcmc

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I would be ok with that assumption too from a fan.

However, I damn well would expect some additional corroborating evidence in the court of law before I considered it an "open-shut case". And these three men are innocent until proven guilty of course.
I thought I read they were seen outside the apartment smoking. That's how the whole investigation got started.
 

hurdleisu24

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For those of you wondering if they made them take a drug test, obviously they did. Random drug tests by NCAA, ISU, and the big 12 are carried out every week. You can be selected randomly or on reasonable suspiscion. They would have gotten tested the 15th as well as after they turned themselves in. It is possible to get clean in a night. Also, since they are athletes with very good metabolism, they metabolize the drugs faster than a ley person. They could have gotten clean before they took the drug test.

It is obvious they passed it. So convincing the coaches and administration that it was a "friend" that smoked in their place. Therefore freeing them of smoking.

The players were admitting that they owned the jars, not the residue.

About the seeds, once again "friends". If they had their story straight and didn't slip up, they could bs themselves outta the whole situation.
 

CloneIce

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I thought I read they were seen outside the apartment smoking. That's how the whole investigation got started.

According to reports they thought they saw someone that looked like a football player smoking. I'll leave what that means open to interpretation, but I know there is no way that description would hold up for anything in an impartial court of law.
 

IcSyU

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It is possible to get clean in a night.
No it's not. It'd still be in your blood stream as well as in your urine unless you had a HELLUVA masking agent that most of the tests would catch.
 

DaddyMac

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For those of you wondering if they made them take a drug test, obviously they did. Random drug tests by NCAA, ISU, and the big 12 are carried out every week. You can be selected randomly or on reasonable suspiscion. They would have gotten tested the 15th as well as after they turned themselves in. It is possible to get clean in a night. Also, since they are athletes with very good metabolism, they metabolize the drugs faster than a ley person. They could have gotten clean before they took the drug test.

It is obvious they passed it. So convincing the coaches and administration that it was a "friend" that smoked in their place. Therefore freeing them of smoking.

The players were admitting that they owned the jars, not the residue.

About the seeds, once again "friends". If they had their story straight and didn't slip up, they could bs themselves outta the whole situation.

If it's that open and shut, I wonder why the charges are out there or they even bothered to issue warrants in the first place?
 

hurdleisu24

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Oh sorry. I typed that wrong. 2 mornings after smoking in the night. I have heard of this being done multiple times.
 

06_CY

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Which would make the sample watered down and give even more suspicion.