Ken Miller I am calling you out!
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Exactly.
Ron Turner has been awful since he got here.. I don't know if I've ever heard anything positive about his schemes from Bears fans. It's obvious.
Not to mention it doesn't look as though Lovie is doing a lot to help, either.. talk about a team continually unprepared to do anything.
Hester is better than last year
Olsen is better than last year
Knox an Bennett are nice additions.
Orton did more with less last year and went 9-7
Cutler has more Int's in the Redzone this year than Tom Brady has in his career
Olsen is better than last year
Knox an Bennett are nice additions.
Orton did more with less last year and went 9-7
Cutler has more Int's in the Redzone this year than Tom Brady has in his career
SAN FRANCISCO — Well, Jay Cutler’s biggest bugaboo came back to haunt him. The huge knock on the talent quarterback – interceptions, particularly in the red zone.
This pick in the end zone was hugely avoidable. First of all, the Bears were in a two back set, releasing blocking tight ends off the line on third-and-goal from the one, but with no outside targets. So all three potential intended receivers were flooding the same area of the end zone, and the 49ers were well prepared.
That side of the end zone was overflowing with defenders, and any one of three 49ers could have stepped in front of the errant attempt into the end zone. Nose tackle Aubrayo Franklin, a breakout player in this league, made the pick look as easy as it was (he’s very athletic for a big man). it was doubly troubling for the Bears because it came on the final play of an 18-play drive in the end zone. That will crush your soul a little bit.
A great chance to seize some control of the game was wasted.
Cutler entered the game ranked 39th in the NFL in red-zone passing, completing just 51 percent of his passes for a poor 69.0 rating. He has thrown four red-zone picks this season; no one else in the league has tossed more than two (Matt Ryan and Marc Bulger are the only passers with two red-zone INTs).
This pick in the end zone was hugely avoidable. First of all, the Bears were in a two back set, releasing blocking tight ends off the line on third-and-goal from the one, but with no outside targets. So all three potential intended receivers were flooding the same area of the end zone, and the 49ers were well prepared.
That side of the end zone was overflowing with defenders, and any one of three 49ers could have stepped in front of the errant attempt into the end zone. Nose tackle Aubrayo Franklin, a breakout player in this league, made the pick look as easy as it was (he’s very athletic for a big man). it was doubly troubling for the Bears because it came on the final play of an 18-play drive in the end zone. That will crush your soul a little bit.
A great chance to seize some control of the game was wasted.
Cutler entered the game ranked 39th in the NFL in red-zone passing, completing just 51 percent of his passes for a poor 69.0 rating. He has thrown four red-zone picks this season; no one else in the league has tossed more than two (Matt Ryan and Marc Bulger are the only passers with two red-zone INTs).
None of that matters cause they can't run the ball. Chicago averages 85 ypg rushing (29th in the NFL). Forte had 41 yards on 20 att last night. How successful do you expect to be offensively when you rush at 2 ypc? To specifically call out Cutler is absurd. Its a team game and the O-Line is awful and the receiving corps is a D-Back and 2 spares.
Ken Miller told me he is one of the NFL's best and that I am a fool to think different.
He told me I didnt know anything about football to not like Cutler.
This has been a 4 year arguement that I am winning and he is hiding from.
He told me I didnt know anything about football to not like Cutler.
This has been a 4 year arguement that I am winning and he is hiding from.
I believe it was Hub Arkush here, in Chicago that had referred to him early in the season as one of the leages "Elite" quarterbacks. If it wasn't Hub, I do apologize for that, but it was definitely one of the guys on 670 the Score when they were talking about where the Bears were headed after the first game of the season.
How bout Alex Smith for Jay Cutler? Please!!!
Be patient with him in Chicago. Build around him and it will pay off.
The only reason that Jay Cutler is not considered by popular perception to just be a Jeff George clone is purely based on ESPN's depicting him a "star". Taking into consideration the last two years he played on Denver who 1 - had a good offensive line; 2 - had offensive "genius" Mike Shanahan; and 3 - had talented receivers such as Brandon Marshall, Brandon Stokley, Tony Scheffler and Eddie Royal (1 year) let's just look at facts.
Fact 1 - Jay Cutler has failed to help Chicago produce more than 17 points in 5 of 9 games this year. Chicago's record in those games - 1-4. Last year, with Kyle Orton at QB, they failed to score more than 17 only 3 times (and 1 more time with Rex Grossman).
Fact 2 - In his two full seasons as starter at Denver, with all of the talent surrounding him, Denver failed to score more than 17 points in 13 of his 32 starts and failed to score more than 20 in exactly 1/2 of his starts. Denver's record in the games scoring 17 or less 2-11.
Fact 3 - Total of 41 starts has yielded 17 points or less 18 times. By comparison, since Tony Romo's first full season as QB was the same as Cutler, Romo has only failed to lead Dallas to more than 17 points on 7 of his 39 starts and one of those was a game he was pulled early since it was the final game of the season and Dallas' playoff position was secure (07 v. Redskins).
Cutler may put it together someday, but until he can be consistently scoring week-to-week in the 20's, Chicago won't win and no one should even consider him one of the 15 best QB's in the league.
When you are the Worst Red Zone Quarterback in the NFL you are not one of the top 16 Qb's in the league
Kenny should admit he is wrong and be happy that his Broncos might get a top 10 pick out of the Bears!
Yeah and he has the exact opposite of that in Chicago. Look, I'm not trying to tell you Cutler is an elite QB in the league but you need to understand that offensive football starts with the O-Line. Chicago's is terrible and I don't understand why in 9 games people are ready to run him out of town considering the incredible lack of talent surrounding him. None of the current elite QBs in the league could take this team to the playoffs out of the NFC Central. Look at the Elite QBs and see what they have for WRs. They all have legit #1 receivers on the roster.
The Bears suck and its not all Cutlers fault.
You are correct, it is not all of his fault. My point is that his scoring production this year is consistent with his production with Denver when he did have a good o-line and receivers and offensive coaching staff.
Think of him like Ricky Davis in basketball - good talent, can get impressive stats, but is not a hard enough worker or consistent enough to be a winner.
For what its worth, Tom Brady won a Super Bowl without a legit #1 and Brett Favre made receivers into #1s like Robert Brooks, Donald Driver & Greg Jennings. Also, who is New Orleans' "legit #1" receiver this year?
Orton did more last year with less.
Orton is doing more this year with more.
I dont think Orton is more than average but he knows how to win.
Ugly but he wins like Stanzi from Iowa
Orton is doing more this year with more.
I dont think Orton is more than average but he knows how to win.
Ugly but he wins like Stanzi from Iowa
Can't help but be a little amused by the irony with the Bears offense.
A few years ago, all the pieces were there except at QB. Rex had a decent surrounding cast.
Now, they bring in a better QB and they don't give him a ton of help.
Does this organization suffer from head-in-*** disease?
A few years ago, all the pieces were there except at QB. Rex had a decent surrounding cast.
Now, they bring in a better QB and they don't give him a ton of help.
Does this organization suffer from head-in-*** disease?
It is a weird situation. The problem is they spent SO much money on defense, they don't have a ton of money to spend on offense. They couldn't pay Berrian to stay...he was their only real "threat" at WR with Grossman.
Colston is a legitimate #1 option. The Bears would love to have the depth of talent at WR like the Saints do. Bears WRs cannot handle the pressure put on them to consistently make plays because the run game is a threat to no one except the Lions. Thru 9 games Forte was averaging 53 ypg.
Cutler needs help, he doesn't have the talent of Brady or Manning and I would wager that those two wouldn't have the Bears in the playoffs with this team anyway. I am tellin the Bears fans, dont run a good QB out of town. With help he is good enough to make super bowl runs with talent around him. He is a top 10 QB in the league.
I guess he doesn't get the calls like Tommy Brady does!
Struggling Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler has been fined $20,000 by the NFL for abusive conduct toward a game official during Chicago's blowout loss to Arizona.
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Cutler was fined as a result of verbal abuse toward the back judge, which drew an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty in the Bears' 41-21 loss to the Cardinals.
Acquired in an offseason trade from Denver, Cutler leads the league in interceptions (17) after throwing five in Thursday's 10-6 loss in San Francisco. His 76.0 quarterback rating is among the lowest in the league.
Struggling Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler has been fined $20,000 by the NFL for abusive conduct toward a game official during Chicago's blowout loss to Arizona.
Cutler was fined as a result of verbal abuse toward the back judge, which drew an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty in the Bears' 41-21 loss to the Cardinals.
Acquired in an offseason trade from Denver, Cutler leads the league in interceptions (17) after throwing five in Thursday's 10-6 loss in San Francisco. His 76.0 quarterback rating is among the lowest in the league.
He also has receivers who have no clue as to how to run routes. A lot of his picks this season, including last night, have been because receivers are not where they're supposed to be or aren't finishing their routes.
