Right. If the suspension is lifted what difference does it make? He is either suspended or active. There was always the possibility he could play.
Playing Colvin - Mac's biggest mistake
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Right. If the suspension is lifted what difference does it make? He is either suspended or active. There was always the possibility he could play.
I am not saying that we might not annoy people at times. I am saying that we are not saying things simply for effect. We don't do that.
Right before Mike was officially kicked off, after his last offense in the middle of that summer, I was told that several players walked into Mac's office and said something along the lines of "enough is enough with that kid...if Mike Taylor is still on this team, we won't be."
Don't know how much truth there is to that, but if it is true, then that shows this Colvin situation is much different that Taylor's.
We pay the coach to make those kinds of decisions...not the players. Just because the players unanimously vote for something doesn't make it right.
If a high school principal suspends a student, do you let the rest of the students vote to unsuspend him?
The sad thing is that we didn't even need him out there...
I sense a little infighting at KXnO again. Given Jon's earlier post "You have accuratley described a sports talk host in the dsm market, just not Deace" and Matt's twitter last night "Oh just another day of getting into arguments. I'm so good at making friends with people I work with 
(joking!) Must be my personality".
Also, I hate how Deace is saying I am morally inferior to him because I support McD's deciscion to play Colvin. I attend a similar church as Steve and share a lot of the same beliefs. However, where we differ is the judgement of others morals. I don't think I am better than people with different morals than I have.
(joking!) Must be my personality". Also, I hate how Deace is saying I am morally inferior to him because I support McD's deciscion to play Colvin. I attend a similar church as Steve and share a lot of the same beliefs. However, where we differ is the judgement of others morals. I don't think I am better than people with different morals than I have.
CycloneErik
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OK. That's fine. What I am saying is that it comes across that way from my perception. I may be completely alone in that perception, and if so, it's all me.
CycloneErik
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I sense a little infighting at KXnO again. Given Jon's earlier post "You have accuratley described a sports talk host in the dsm market, just not Deace" and Matt's twitter last night "Oh just another day of getting into arguments. I'm so good at making friends with people I work with
Also, I hate how Deace is saying I am morally inferior to him because I support McD's deciscion to play Colvin. I attend a similar church as Steve and share a lot of the same beliefs. However, where we differ is the judgement of others morals. I don't think I am better than people with different morals than I have.
If all 3 (I think 4--right Jon?) of us are coming from similar churches, we should each know that none of us are better than anyone else. But any further and I probably send this to the cave.
I'm more upset at the fact that he played than I am that the "suspension" was lifted. When I first heard that the suspension was lifted I figured it was done so we could use Colvin in an emergency situation, (ie. foul trouble or injuries). That way the kid is dressed and ready to go if needed.
The fact that he played last night, and was not needed, kind of made me think quite differently of McDermott.
I sense a little infighting at KXnO again. Given Jon's earlier post "You have accuratley described a sports talk host in the dsm market, just not Deace" and Matt's twitter last night "Oh just another day of getting into arguments. I'm so good at making friends with people I work with
Also, I hate how Deace is saying I am morally inferior to him because I support McD's deciscion to play Colvin. I attend a similar church as Steve and share a lot of the same beliefs. However, where we differ is the judgement of others morals. I don't think I am better than people with different morals than I have.
I am not refering to anyone I work with
CycloneErik
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If that is true I would be somewhat surprised. But if it is I will retract my statement.
As far as discipline it doesn't matter. It is the principle. If he is not suspended, then he should be available to play at any time. I said that from the beginning. If he was going to be lifted, he should be able to play when we could use him. If he is going to be an "emergency" guy, then keep the suspension on and throw Dorr in.
I wonder if Jon took the "moral high-ground" when the slew of Iowa football players got arrested and (in most cases) recieved a pretty nominal punishment.
I sense a little infighting at KXnO again. Given Jon's earlier post "You have accuratley described a sports talk host in the dsm market, just not Deace" and Matt's twitter last night "Oh just another day of getting into arguments. I'm so good at making friends with people I work with
Also, I hate how Deace is saying I am morally inferior to him because I support McD's deciscion to play Colvin. I attend a similar church as Steve and share a lot of the same beliefs. However, where we differ is the judgement of others morals. I don't think I am better than people with different morals than I have.
Dude, he said no such things on how anyone was morally inferior to him. You are cutting and splicing stuff
and Greg has judged himself here. When you say one thing and do another, there really isn't much to say
CycloneErik
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Suspension is just a word here. The punishment is the fact that Colvin is not playing.
I understand that...This is a situation that needed to be team decision not a Mac decision.
Yes, we do...we need everybody.
You weren't listening in late July of 2008 when ken and I were on the air together in kc. I've no problem with how I handle these things. Some of you can't possible imagine being able to comment on Iowa athletics objectively so you assume that an Iowa fan cannot possibly then comment on isu objectively. That's on you, not me
For my 26 years as a cyclone fan I have always thought that integrity was the most important part of being a cyclone. As long as we did it the right way I was always supportive of my beloved clones. I have now decided I want ISU to go the other way. I don't care how we do it anymore I just want wins. Even if they are taken away from us years later by the NCAA the years of winning would be glorious.
PS I am only kidding a little bit.
PS I am only kidding a little bit.
Hopefully MAC learns a PR lesson from this, if nothing else. The good old "indefinite suspension" would have worked wonders for this situation! Kind of like it would have for the Oregon running back. Putting an immediate timetable on it and then having to backtrack doesn't seem to work out too well!
