McDermott: 2-8 presser transcript

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We're stuck in a neverending debate..and the only way out is winning.

GMac has had two major hurdles: 1) starting with 4 players and 2) WJ transferring. Some people think that's his fault - I can see that. Some people think those are bad breaks - I can see that too. But no one's mind is going to be changed.

But when we talk about other b12 teams that have had success (A&M, Mizz, KSU, etc.) one benefit those guys all had was keeping the existing talent: Turgeon is still coaching Gillespie recruits, Martin is still coaching Huggins recruits, and Mike Anderson had a 6'8" 235lb nephew transfer in, and he took JT Tiller with him from UAB. GMac decided not to bring any UNI guys with him.

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I thought it was a virtual lock that guys left during a coaching transition...how is it that Turgeon could be working with Gillispie's recruits?!?

Do you really wish GM would have brought some of his UNI guys to Ames?
 

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2 comments:

I thought it was a virtual lock that guys left during a coaching transition...how is it that Turgeon could be working with Gillispie's recruits?!?

Do you really wish GM would have brought some of his UNI guys to Ames?


It rarely happens that you see the turnover that we saw here. The sad part is that it is used not only as an excuse, but as a threat.

As far as UNI guys, Kwadzo Ahellegbe (I have no idea) would be better than any guard we have had the last three years. I think he has a real chance to play in the NBA. And I would take Adam Koch in a heartbeat. He is tough, and hardnosed, and sound (the opposite of the way we play).
 

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So basically he wishes he would have ran off Rashon Clark, Jessan Gray and Jiri Hubalek?

Does he ever wish that he would have done a better job of keeping the players who were on the team and not running off signed commit Laurence Westbrook?

I don't see how he gets that there were only 4 players. Looking back at the 2006-2007 roster, I count 10 that were here when GMac got here, not including Alex Thompson who was sitting out that first year. Granted, they were not all starters or experienced.....but it is not true that he only had 4 scholarship players on the squad.
 

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I thought it was a virtual lock that guys left during a coaching transition...how is it that Turgeon could be working with Gillispie's recruits?!?

Do you really wish GM would have brought some of his UNI guys to Ames?


Its just an observation. A&M lost their coach because he took a better job, so the environment is a bit different than when the coach who recruited you is canned.

GMac just had tough decisions to make - do you try to find guys to field a team or do you start from scratch and sacrifice gettting killed for a year or two. The risk is that even when you try to scramble to find guys, you can still get killed.

What's the guy supposed to say "Rahshon, thanks for staying, but just so you know, I'm going to take a few years to recruit some better players, so you're screwed - but hopefully it works out for me when you're long gone..."
 

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"What are some things that have surprised you so far about the Big 12?
GM: I am not sure that I am surprised at anything because I felt like from top to bottom, the league was really good and as good as it has been in my four years..."

Not sure if I'd describe the 'bottom' as being really good, but GM seems to have find a permanent home there ...
 

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To some no matter what Mac says or does he is wrong. I wonder what they will say about him if he gets it turned around next year. Yes players have left, yes Mac did a poor job of keeping Morgan's players, yes he didnt connect with them right away and didnt understand how to connect with them right away. I do know for a fact that Mac goes out of his way to make new commits welcome to ISU long before they set foot on campus. I know for a fact that at least 2 of the Srs on the current UNI team wanted to follow Mac to ISU, but he told them to stay with UNI. CB stayed with Mac when he should have left, Taylor talks up Mac when given the change. Colvin said he is going to stay, Strap says he wants to stay given the chance maybe it is just lip service out of these 2 but if you hated the coach or whatever, would come out and say you are staying? Taking Wes and Tayor out of it, every player that has left this program has been replaced by someone better. As for playing walkons over Freshman, dont you want the best players on the court. This team misses a Petey type player, CB misses that the most. Every class Mac has brought in is a little bit better than the class before it. The only real thing that Mac has done wrong at ISU is struggled to get his team to play a whole 40 min game, and maybe just maybe that will come with players being together more than 1 year. This team lacks that guard that can hit a key shot at those times to get the ball rolling back ISU's way. Maybe that will be addressed in this class of players. I am as dissapoined as the rest of you, but am planning on Mac being the coach next year, so I guess we better get used to it and see what happens.
 
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Gmac's first booster meeting:

"Well guys, I have a team of kids who don't want to be cyclones. They hate Ames, they're not big on school, and they miss their beloved WM." "But I told them, look, you can't leave. I need to field a team, and if I start with four players, I may never recover." "One guy swore at me, the other guy had pretty much already quit, and this other kid was only here because he was buddies with Blalock." "Just give it some time and these guys will come around. They don't want to be here, but I'm the coach, so they have to stay."

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Re: Someone needs to contact

all of those that left and se if anyone will spill the beans about any "help" they might have gotten in making their decision.
 

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He states that they basically started with the death penalty and this is true.

If Greg got the death penalty, what do you call what Scott Drew had? Baylor, who couldn't even get 8,000 people to the home game of a ranked team a week ago? Baylor, who wasn't even allowed to play a non-conference schedule 4 seasons ago?

Oh, and Scott Drew's salary is half what McD's is.
 

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He states that they basically started with the death penalty and this is true. :yes:

How is this even remotely true? He had 10 players returning, not 4. Plus, he had another player that would have to sit out the first year because he had transferred in. Plus, of course he had the players that he recruited the first year, including several JC players, one of which was good enough to eventually play some in the NBA. How is that the death penalty? It's not like they took away 5 scholarships and banned the team from post-season play. Come on.

Plus, if it was so bad, then how do you explain that the first year was his best year as far as conference wins goes, and matches his best year at ISU so far in total wins?

Someone suggested that he should have just cleaned house that first year. That would have made sense. Dump Jiri, Rashon, Jessan Gray. Those 3 represented about 30 per cent of the total minutes played the previous season, and 32% of the team's rebounds from the previous year. But, with Stinson and Blalock carrying the load, those 3 only represented about 19 per cent of the scoring. But yeah, just dump them. Brilliant!
 

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So basically he wishes he would have ran off Rashon Clark, Jessan Gray and Jiri Hubalek?

Does he ever wish that he would have done a better job of keeping the players who were on the team and not running off signed commit Laurence Westbrook?
I thought the same exact thing. Does Greg really wish he ran off Rahshon Clark, who showed unbelievable loyalty to stay here? If that's true, I would be very disgusted with McDermott. And he got alot out of Jiri on the inside. Jessan Gray did the best he could, considering he was playing most the year with a broken nose. I really hope McDermott doesn't regret "not cleaning house."
 

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I don't think starting from scratch means getting rid of all of the players that decided to stay, I think it means not recruiting for that first year. That's it. Focusing on the recruits for year 2.
 

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How is this even remotely true? He had 10 players returning, not 4. Plus, he had another player that would have to sit out the first year because he had transferred in. Plus, of course he had the players that he recruited the first year, including several JC players, one of which was good enough to eventually play some in the NBA. How is that the death penalty? It's not like they took away 5 scholarships and banned the team from post-season play. Come on.

Plus, if it was so bad, then how do you explain that the first year was his best year as far as conference wins goes, and matches his best year at ISU so far in total wins?

Someone suggested that he should have just cleaned house that first year. That would have made sense. Dump Jiri, Rashon, Jessan Gray. Those 3 represented about 30 per cent of the total minutes played the previous season, and 32% of the team's rebounds from the previous year. But, with Stinson and Blalock carrying the load, those 3 only represented about 19 per cent of the scoring. But yeah, just dump them. Brilliant!


It isn't true.

It is the beginning of the campaign to save his job.
 

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I thought the same exact thing. Does Greg really wish he ran off Rahshon Clark, who showed unbelievable loyalty to stay here? If that's true, I would be very disgusted with McDermott. And he got alot out of Jiri on the inside. Jessan Gray did the best he could, considering he was playing most the year with a broken nose. I really hope McDermott doesn't regret "not cleaning house."


That is another myth about all of this. For all of the protesting that people have done about Wes and Lucca, Greg has ran off a lot of guys in the three off seasons that he has been here.
 

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I don't think starting from scratch means getting rid of all of the players that decided to stay, I think it means not recruiting for that first year. That's it. Focusing on the recruits for year 2.


But don't you see, not doing anything to retain the players that were here made it necessary to have to scramble to put a class together. That was the only way that they had enough players to field a team.

The bigger concern should be all of the Spring signees that he has had every year. None of them have panned out so far. It has been an act of desperation that has continually blown up in his face.

I like Greg and all, but he has done a poor job, at best, of managing his program here. That is why I would hope that he would think about hiring an experienced coach as a bench assistant. Although it might be too late.
 

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This is an interesting post. I really think, "in hind sight," Mac should have brought an experienced assistant that has coached at the Big 6 level. I believe that he has said that he had no idea what type of player that he needed to recruit. I really believe that he had no idea how to deal with the type of player that you need to win at this level.

A Melvin Watkins type bench coach could have done him a world of good.

But for him to say that he had no idea those guys would leave says two things to me. First, he did not connect well with them initially and, two, he didn't do the leg work necessary to re-recruit them and make them feel that they were going to be a big part of the program going forward.

You think about it, they were already here, so the toughest sales job was already done. I know that Sadler went to Australia to re-recruit Maric, and he won some games because of it.


We need an assistant that can coach during practice and on the bench ie. Terry Reed. I thought Coach Reed was like having a second head coach when he was here. The assistants we have now seem to all really emphasize the recruiting aspect.

As far as UNI guys coming with, I think ISU would have 4 or 5 more wins with Kwadzo Ahelegbe running the point this year. Adam Koch would fit in nicely as well but not as important as Kwadzo.
 
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I like Greg and all, but he has done a poor job, at best, of managing his program here.

He must delegate a lot, since he drove to Marshalltown for the Ames High game last Friday, and then immediately after our loss the next day hustled down to Wells Fargo to watch Ames High again.
He must delegate a lot.
 
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He must delegate a lot, since he drove to Marshalltown for the Ames High game last Friday, and then immediately after our loss the next day hustled down to Wells Fargo to watch Ames High again.
He must delegate a lot.

No offense, but I don't think that is fair. His son is a senior, and those aren't long trips. There are a LOT of legitimate criticisms of the job that he has done here, this isn't one of them.

As long as he is performing the duties of his job, I don't see it as a big deal that he leaves for a couple hours to watch his child play. Plus with cell phones, blackberries, etc. He can get done what he needs to do.
 

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He must delegate a lot, since he drove to Marshalltown for the Ames High game last Friday, and then immediately after our loss the next day hustled down to Wells Fargo to watch Ames High again.
He must delegate a lot.

Wow so you want him to stop being a dad?? This is a special time in Doug's life and you want Mac to just ignore his games and be depressed about sucking?:confused:
 

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Wow so you want him to stop being a dad?? This is a special time in Doug's life and you want Mac to just ignore his games and be depressed about sucking?
Oh, I don't know, how about the team doing things together on a night before a huge game, maybe watching a movie like other teams do? Seems to me that with players just up and quitting, walking out after games, etc., that team bonding activites and game preparation might be a focus?
BTW, we lost to K-State. Maybe it was a different time (and it was certainly a different coach), but Tim Floyd and staff would immediately break down game tape over and over after home losses. No one went anywhere.