Arnaud

[swarthmoreCY]

How many NFL scouts do you think watch enough Iowa State games to know this? Do you know scouts prefer prospects from Pro Style offenses? If we never switched to the spread it would be a whole different story. But at the same time it would be harder for him to look good because the spread offense makes you look a lot better than you really are and pads your stats. -learn it.

The spread pads some stats, but it can expose weaknesses in areas as well.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

LOL

Thats because of our defense and running game. Not because of Arnaud.

I agree. In a few instances it was in-spite of AA that we were in games. Do we win at NU with AA at QB? I would put money he would have had more turnovers than Tiller (less conservative play calling/mindset).

 

[kcclone33]

not trying to be snippy or condescending, but this statement simply has no merit at this point. simply being big does not make you a TE/H-Back. simply because he is big and athletic does not mean he can block anybody OR catch passes, especially against NFL players. could it happen? sure, but this is one of the bolder statements i've seen on here. right up there with bo williams being the most talented RB on our roster based on nothing alone. again, don't take it personal but this is some serious conjecture.

I know for a fact he's got some pretty damn good hands. I don't know about the blocking but we do know he is physical. And to address the size issue i've heard he has to work hard to keep his weight down to where it is.

P.S. I'm not saying that he could be an NFL TE, just addressing some of the arguements against it.

 

[jdoggivjc]

How many NFL scouts do you think watch enough Iowa State games to know this? Do you know scouts prefer prospects from Pro Style offenses? If we never switched to the spread it would be a whole different story. But at the same time it would be harder for him to look good because the spread offense makes you look a lot better than you really are and pads your stats. -learn it.

So in other words, just because Arnaud likely isn't NFL-caliber automatically means he sucks. Got it... :skeptical:

 

[jdoggivjc]

I agree. In a few instances it was in-spite of AA that we were in games. Do we win at NU with AA at QB? I would put money he would have had more turnovers than Tiller (less conservative play calling/mindset).

And yet we would have likely won by a much larger margin... :no:

 

[swarthmoreCY]

And yet we would have likely won by a much larger margin... :no:

Or lose.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Or lose.

Lemme guess - you're one of those __________ that thinks that despite showing absolutely NOTHING all season last year that Tiller should be starting over Arnaud...

 

[kcclone33]

Arnaud was a successful Iowa State Cyclone QB. And thats about it. You realize only about 4 or 5 QBs are drafted into the NFL each year right? Do you think Arnaud will be better than 110 other D-1 QBs in the country next season?

Wow. Did anyone else know that every starting QB in D1 is going to make themselves eligable for the after next season?

 

[CyCloned]

All I have to say is that if AA gets drafted after next season then ISU will be looking for a new QB coach, because the guy they have now worked miracles. I like AAs determination, but he had way too many, WTF moments last year.

 

[CycloneWanderer]

Another offseason with the schemes should do wonder for AA. It seemed like most of his mistakes were mental, AKA fixable with another year to study the schemes and film.

 

[RustShack]

So in other words, just because Arnaud likely isn't NFL-caliber automatically means he sucks. Got it... :skeptical:

What are you talking about? This whole thread is about the NFL draft. Why would he get drafted if like you just said, hes not NFL caliber? Or do you just like to argue and look like a fool?

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

Arnaud will throw for 3,500 yards, run for 500, and pass for 23 TD's, mark it down.

 

[azn4cy]

Another offseason with the schemes should do wonder for AA. It seemed like most of his mistakes were mental, AKA fixable with another year to study the schemes and film.

Not going to drink the koolaid and buy in totally, but I hope this is the case. He obviously had the talent since he was decent 2 years ago, but he makes some of the most boneheaded throws this side of Brett Favre with NFC championship games on the line.

 

[RustShack]

Arnaud will throw for 3,500 yards, run for 500, and pass for 23 TD's, mark it down.

He should be pretty successful. It is his second year in the spread after all and he should be healthy.

 

[jdoggivjc]

If he wouldn't have sucked last year I would say yes. He will have to completely light it up though to be even drafted now.

There's a difference between sucking and playing injured the entire season - learn it...

How many NFL scouts do you think watch enough Iowa State games to know this? Do you know scouts prefer prospects from Pro Style offenses? If we never switched to the spread it would be a whole different story. But at the same time it would be harder for him to look good because the spread offense makes you look a lot better than you really are and pads your stats. -learn it.

What are you talking about? This whole thread is about the NFL draft. Why would he get drafted if like you just said, hes not NFL caliber? Or do you just like to argue and look like a fool?

You went there - not I. All I said is the guy was injured - you brought "suck" into it...

 

[UNIGuy4Cy]

He should be pretty successful. It is his second year in the spread after all and he should be healthy.

I think he will be the second best QB in the league behind Blaine Gabbert.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Lemme guess - you're one of those __________ that thinks that despite showing absolutely NOTHING all season last year that Tiller should be starting over Arnaud...

You have guessed wrong.
I do feel that last year the QB position was at times a weak point on the team. Given the performance capabilities of those at the position in Year One of the offense, there were times that the maximum contribution feasible from the QB was actually the minimization of the negative affect the QB had on the game.

 

[RustShack]

I think he will be the second best QB in the league behind Blaine Gabbert.

By league do you mean Big12?

 

[Al_4_State]

LOL

Thats because of our defense and running game. Not because of Arnaud.

Arnaud was a very significant part of our running game.

 

[Al_4_State]

By league do you mean Big12?

Nah, I think he meant Big East.