Poll: Can message boards play a factor into a potential recruit coming to Iowa State?

[zach]

Re: Poll: Can message boards play a factor into a potential recruit coming to Iowa St

Yes message boards play a factor. Playing for a school is a complex decision for the athelete and parents. They would be fools not to look at everything and measure the quality of the program. Are message boards the sole decision whether or not, probably no, just another straw. However, a message board is like a billboard that you drive by daily. The more you drive by, you either like or dislike the product more. You may like the coaches the campus the profs, then once you get home the feeling become less over time. So you reach out to channels that are affliated to that school and one of those are mesage boards. So when the kid and family are reaching out for information to the school, most of what they see here is negativity in an imature and speculative based hear-say manner, much of the time.

Thankfully we have ownership on this site that is trying to provide freedom and yet request respect in message.

Z

 

[peachy]

Re: Poll: Can message boards play a factor into a potential recruit coming to Iowa St

Dbronc, just to clarify, my post was saracastic. I really don't think we need to shut down CF.

The topic, can message boards play a factor in a recruit coming is poorly worded. ANYTHING, and I mean ANYTHING CAN play a factor is a recruits decision. Everything from the school mascot, to the band, to the food served on campus, to the parking at Hilton CAN play a factor. Heck, the Ames Wal-Mart meat department CAN be a factor. Anything you mention CAN be a factor. Are those things MAJOR factors in a recruits decision? Of course not, and neither is CF, nor is Cyclone Report, or any other website out there where people can voice an opinion.

Some people give this website way to much credit. It is just a forum where people can gripe and moan about Cyclone athletics. People can also cheer and get pumped up about Cyclone athletics too on this site. Obviously, if your basketball team stinks, and you lose half your players every year, more people will be negative about the program on a website, its not exactly rocket science. Every major D-1 college has some website where people do the exact same thing we do here on CF.

If you think CF plays a MAJOR part in recruits not coming here, please list your source. I will be willing to wager a large sum if you call Clyburn, Clark, and all the other recruits we whiffed on why they choose to not play BB at ISU, none will say "I'm not going to sign with ISU. Did you hear what Cyclone#2 posted on CF today? No way am I going to Ames now, what a jerk!!!"

Think about it. When you decided to come to ISU, did you enroll here because we have a great website? Did www.iastate.edu seal the deal for you?

 

[dcxme1183]

Re: Poll: Can message boards play a factor into a potential recruit coming to Iowa St

If I recall correctly, this thread was born out of a discussion that we missed out on Oto Osenieks. Then people mentioned KU and UNC also have negative threads but it doesn't hurt them. This was rebutted by pointing out that they are premier programs....

So what about Minnesota? They are not a premier program. And living up here and reading all the comments, I can tell you their fans were just as down on Oto as our fans were. Many of them still are and use it as a reason they believe Tubby should be fired.

 

[a fan]

Re: Poll: Can message boards play a factor into a potential recruit coming to Iowa St

I know if it was my child and I read these message boards, there is almost no way I would want my child coming to play at ISU. The atmosphere here is poison, while you have every right to say what you want, the hatred towards mens basketball personnel is not what I would want my child exposed to. And yes it is hatred to the personnel, no matter what you want to call it. And as a parent, I did not overprotect my children, if you are going to play the game, you take what comes with it. But if given a choice, why not play the game where certainty of staff and appreciation of personnel are higher? Setting yourself up to play in an atmosphere such as there is at ISU right now is not good for anyone. What I really wish for is that all ISU basketball staff to look internally and consider integrity. But since that is not going to happen, making lemonade out of the lemon juice is going to get us further. Contact JP, send him the money to do what you want done.

 

[dbronco7sc]

Re: Poll: Can message boards play a factor into a potential recruit coming to Iowa St

Yes message boards play a factor. Playing for a school is a complex decision for the athelete and parents. They would be fools not to look at everything and measure the quality of the program. Are message boards the sole decision whether or not, probably no, just another straw. However, a message board is like a billboard that you drive by daily. The more you drive by, you either like or dislike the product more. You may like the coaches the campus the profs, then once you get home the feeling become less over time. So you reach out to channels that are affliated to that school and one of those are mesage boards. So when the kid and family are reaching out for information to the school, most of what they see here is negativity in an imature and speculative based hear-say manner, much of the time.

Thankfully we have ownership on this site that is trying to provide freedom and yet request respect in message.

Z

This is what sums up my post with a great example. Over time... a negative atmosphere on here can slowly but continually build a negative perception in a recruits mind.

And the bilboard... do I feel like when I look at a billboard... I make up my mind that I'm going to by such and such product? No (for me at least). But when companies are willing to spend that much money to continually advertize their product that isn't (in my opinion) something that's a major factor when I make my purchasing decision... then I'm guessing there have been some studies that have shown it to be significant enough value to spend the money on that billboard.

 

[dbronco7sc]

Re: Poll: Can message boards play a factor into a potential recruit coming to Iowa St

Dbronc, just to clarify, my post was saracastic. I really don't think we need to shut down CF.

The topic, can message boards play a factor in a recruit coming is poorly worded. ANYTHING, and I mean ANYTHING CAN play a factor is a recruits decision. Everything from the school mascot, to the band, to the food served on campus, to the parking at Hilton CAN play a factor. Heck, the Ames Wal-Mart meat department CAN be a factor. Anything you mention CAN be a factor. Are those things MAJOR factors in a recruits decision? Of course not, and neither is CF, nor is Cyclone Report, or any other website out there where people can voice an opinion.

Some people give this website way to much credit. It is just a forum where people can gripe and moan about Cyclone athletics. People can also cheer and get pumped up about Cyclone athletics too on this site. Obviously, if your basketball team stinks, and you lose half your players every year, more people will be negative about the program on a website, its not exactly rocket science. Every major D-1 college has some website where people do the exact same thing we do here on CF.

If you think CF plays a MAJOR part in recruits not coming here, please list your source. I will be willing to wager a large sum if you call Clyburn, Clark, and all the other recruits we whiffed on why they choose to not play BB at ISU, none will say "I'm not going to sign with ISU. Did you hear what Cyclone#2 posted on CF today? No way am I going to Ames now, what a jerk!!!"

Think about it. When you decided to come to ISU, did you enroll here because we have a great website? Did www.iastate.edu seal the deal for you?

I don't necessarily disagree with your points. I have previously admitted that I have an opinion (and thus bias) and as much as I tried to avoid it, the question is then subject to poor wording from me. However... I chose to use 'can' over 'does' it affect or 'is' it a factor because I think we all agree that it's not going to affect everyone... and does/is will imply an 'always' and has exact opposite effect as my 'CAN' statement.

And since we never know who it might affect, but CAN affect someone, I personally feel it's better to be safe than sorry. I've tried looking into alternative wording such as "do you think there has been a scenario where it has affected our ability to get a recruit (whether it be to even look at us as an option in the first place or be the tipping point to choose someone else)" but I haven't received much positive feedback on a followup poll for better accuracy, and therefore haven't posted anything.

I also don't think anybody on here thinks a recruits impressions from this site is even in the top 3 most important factors let alone top 5. But some of us do feel it is significant enough to hold weight. For those who feel the same way I do, it's not as an immediate pro/con with a weighted value that gets averaged with the rest of the factors in a recruit's decision... but more as a cumulative and lasting impression similar to what Zach wrote.

 

[kilgore_trout]

Re: Poll: Can message boards play a factor into a potential recruit coming to Iowa St

Poll: Is it possible to change a CF poll question without resetting the results? (pick one)

Yes
No
Will somebody please just kick dbronco7sc in the bean bag

 

[dbronco7sc]

Re: Poll: Can message boards play a factor into a potential recruit coming to Iowa St

Poll: Is it possible to change a CF poll question without resetting the results? (pick one)

Yes
No
Will somebody please just kick dbronco7sc in the bean bag

I don't think changing a question after people have voted is fair way to represent their vote, and would not go over well with people.

And I'm sorry for whatever I did to you. I believe that there is a feature that allows you to block all of my posts from being displayed on your screen.

I hope you have a wonderful night, and that tomorrow you may find it in yourself to forgive my opinions that have caused you to have ill enough feeling toward me that you'd post what you did.

 

[kilgore_trout]

Re: Poll: Can message boards play a factor into a potential recruit coming to Iowa St

that's ok. i forgive you. you have a blessed night, now.

sorry about the kick to your balls, and all that.

I don't think changing a question after people have voted is fair way to represent their vote, and would not go over well with people.

And I'm sorry for whatever I did to you. I believe that there is a feature that allows you to block all of my posts from being displayed on your screen.

I hope you have a wonderful night, and that tomorrow you may find it in yourself to forgive my opinions that have caused you to have ill enough feeling toward me that you'd post what you did.