Assistant Coach Possibilities Thread
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Re: Coach Morgan
Yes. Your thinking about Stinson's worse games while I am looking at his whole body of work, I guess. Curtis definitely had a couple just awful games for ISU (Nebraska comes to mind) but was a great Cyclone and had far more great games than terrible ones.
Yes. Your thinking about Stinson's worse games while I am looking at his whole body of work, I guess. Curtis definitely had a couple just awful games for ISU (Nebraska comes to mind) but was a great Cyclone and had far more great games than terrible ones.
Re: Coach Morgan
chengyusen- There are plenty of low and mid major head coaches that are good x's and o guys who would make the jump to high d-1 assistant for a variety of reasons. Also fired high d-1 coaches that may be good in some areas but lack in others (like GMac would have been in the next year or two had he still been in Ames). Fred may also turn out to be just fine with the x's and o's, I just think his obvious strengths should be his ability to recruit off his NBA experience as a player and in management, and his ability to relate and build relationships with players because of his extensive playing experience and charisma.
chengyusen- There are plenty of low and mid major head coaches that are good x's and o guys who would make the jump to high d-1 assistant for a variety of reasons. Also fired high d-1 coaches that may be good in some areas but lack in others (like GMac would have been in the next year or two had he still been in Ames). Fred may also turn out to be just fine with the x's and o's, I just think his obvious strengths should be his ability to recruit off his NBA experience as a player and in management, and his ability to relate and build relationships with players because of his extensive playing experience and charisma.
Re: Jeff Rutter
He was offered a job at CU and turned it down.
He was not offered a coaching staff position by Hoiberg.
It appears he will remain on staff at ISU in some fashion to fill ou the remainder of his contract. I suspect he'll look for other opportunities while his son finishes high school.
I am extremely shocked he did not go to CU with GMac but getting demoted to Dir of Ops probably didn't help the situation.
He was offered a job at CU and turned it down.
He was not offered a coaching staff position by Hoiberg.
It appears he will remain on staff at ISU in some fashion to fill ou the remainder of his contract. I suspect he'll look for other opportunities while his son finishes high school.
I am extremely shocked he did not go to CU with GMac but getting demoted to Dir of Ops probably didn't help the situation.
Re: Coach Morgan
2005 scouting report for Iowa St.
This is one of the most interesting statistical gems I've seen on the KenPom site. In 2005, we had the 8th best defense in the country, and were able to force a ton of turnovers. Yet we had only the 127th best offense in the country, and that number doesn't take in to account the increased offensive production we should have had from forcing so many turnovers on defense. We also basically played a 6-man rotation. And we didn't win a game for almost a whole month in January, meaning we finished 9-2 in Big 12 play. Just a truly fascinating team, looking back.
2005 scouting report for Iowa St.
This is one of the most interesting statistical gems I've seen on the KenPom site. In 2005, we had the 8th best defense in the country, and were able to force a ton of turnovers. Yet we had only the 127th best offense in the country, and that number doesn't take in to account the increased offensive production we should have had from forcing so many turnovers on defense. We also basically played a 6-man rotation. And we didn't win a game for almost a whole month in January, meaning we finished 9-2 in Big 12 play. Just a truly fascinating team, looking back.
Re: Jeff Rutter
Bryce - Can you say Robert McFarland he got the same treatment from Chizzle....
Bryce - Can you say Robert McFarland he got the same treatment from Chizzle....
Re: Coach Morgan
And with the "8th best defense in the country" and supposed "superior coaching" we somehow managed to lose 6 games in a row, which included losses to ****-poor K-State and Colorado and mediocre Missouri and Xavier teams, lost to mediocre Nebraska and aTm teams later in the season, and earlier in the season lost to UNI - you know, the team that the Morgan supporters often spout that is a team that "ISU should never lose to". In fact, with this "8th best team in the country" and "superior coaching" we managed to only win 19 games that season.
But yeah, don't confuse the Morgan supporters with facts, it messes up their make believe world...
And with the "8th best defense in the country" and supposed "superior coaching" we somehow managed to lose 6 games in a row, which included losses to ****-poor K-State and Colorado and mediocre Missouri and Xavier teams, lost to mediocre Nebraska and aTm teams later in the season, and earlier in the season lost to UNI - you know, the team that the Morgan supporters often spout that is a team that "ISU should never lose to". In fact, with this "8th best team in the country" and "superior coaching" we managed to only win 19 games that season.
But yeah, don't confuse the Morgan supporters with facts, it messes up their make believe world...
Re: Coach Morgan
jdoggivjc- I never said Morgan was a superior coach, just better than some people will give him credit for. His accomplishments at ISU like 3 of 3 winning seasons, 4 top 10 wins and 4 post season wins were pretty good, especially compared to our last coach. Sorry about giving you more facts.
jdoggivjc- I never said Morgan was a superior coach, just better than some people will give him credit for. His accomplishments at ISU like 3 of 3 winning seasons, 4 top 10 wins and 4 post season wins were pretty good, especially compared to our last coach. Sorry about giving you more facts.
Re: Coach Morgan
And with the "8th best defense in the country" and supposed "superior coaching" we somehow managed to lose 6 games in a row, which included losses to ****-poor K-State and Colorado and mediocre Missouri and Xavier teams, lost to mediocre Nebraska and aTm teams later in the season, and earlier in the season lost to UNI - you know, the team that the Morgan supporters often spout that is a team that "ISU should never lose to". In fact, with this "8th best team in the country" and "superior coaching" we managed to only win 19 games that season.
But yeah, don't confuse the Morgan supporters with facts, it messes up their make believe world...
Alright, alright, we get it....you hate Wayne Morgan and refuse to give him any sort of credit whatsoever. I think the truth lies somewhere in between on the spectrum; he is a better coach than the Wayne haters think and not quite as good as his supporters claim.
How about this? Since WM hasn't been our coach now for five years and is now two coaches removed from Fred Hoiberg, can those who love him and those who hate him please just stop starting threads involving him already? Let. It. GO!!!!!!
And with the "8th best defense in the country" and supposed "superior coaching" we somehow managed to lose 6 games in a row, which included losses to ****-poor K-State and Colorado and mediocre Missouri and Xavier teams, lost to mediocre Nebraska and aTm teams later in the season, and earlier in the season lost to UNI - you know, the team that the Morgan supporters often spout that is a team that "ISU should never lose to". In fact, with this "8th best team in the country" and "superior coaching" we managed to only win 19 games that season.
But yeah, don't confuse the Morgan supporters with facts, it messes up their make believe world...
Alright, alright, we get it....you hate Wayne Morgan and refuse to give him any sort of credit whatsoever. I think the truth lies somewhere in between on the spectrum; he is a better coach than the Wayne haters think and not quite as good as his supporters claim.
How about this? Since WM hasn't been our coach now for five years and is now two coaches removed from Fred Hoiberg, can those who love him and those who hate him please just stop starting threads involving him already? Let. It. GO!!!!!!
