Some people will be negative, not matter what. But, for someone looking for success, a multi-year commitment will help with recruiting and media. It's up to us to increase the value of our own brand.
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Who knows?You think it was a real possibility we would've dropped to I-AA, aka FCS?
I just looked at the numbers and saw we were going to lose at least a 1/4 of our athletic budget revenue.
We were going to have to make some hard choices. Perhaps the Big East or Mountain West would have come through, but your travel budget increases substantially under those scenarios.
The Mac would have made a lot of sense geographically and perhaps Conference USA. The Missouri Valley was probably a long shot and we would have been the 900 pound gorrilla in that conference.
I just think before people whine too much about the cards we've been dealt with the Big 12 they should think a little more about what our choices would have been if this hadn't happened(none of them were that good).
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“I really don’t think it’s going to change all that much,†he said. “I’ve heard a lot of things about adding two teams to the Big 12, but the only thing the coaches have told me is that there will be a Big 12 Conference for a long time.â€
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Wrong. This is amateur athletics. This is a conference. Before the Big 12 Texas football was really struggling. They were getting their freaking @$$#s kicked not only by teams in the SWC but in the non conference. They had a hard time getting elite recruits from the state of Texas. Look it up. The Big 12 gave them a platform to get back on track. Do they appreciate that? Nope. If Texas wants to belong to a conference then they need to concede. Indiana and Minnesota don't bring jack to the Big 10 either. Ask yourself this, which business model or model for a conference is more successful in form and function, the Big 12 or the Big 10? You know the answer, we all do. If Texas does not want to share a little then they need to go independent. I appreciate Texas for what they have become and how it can help ISU, but don't kid yourself. A master/slave relationship with your conference brethren is not healthy at all and bad for college football.
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amateur athletics that is running like a business, so therefore im treating it like one.
i like the big 10 coming from chicago, but i also see that everyone is there for a reason, either bringing in money or academics. Might i add they have the most well known schools in each area with the exception of notre dame, so yes, everyone there is putting something on the table
big 12, theres only a couple people giving really anything back. You along with everyone else knows this conference is only held on because of texas. If they were gone no one would give the big 12 money, especially us and baylor. You can give millions to us, still unless we start winning to the point where we are widely known, then yes i do see a reason why texas deserves to give the rest of the places their table scraps.
in other words, if i brought a huge turkey dinner with a bunch of sides and you bring a can of cranberry sauce, dont expect me to give you a lot for that
Well, good points Marc936. Ideally we want to think of college football as amateur athletics but we all know that in this day and age that is not reality. So a little idealistic on my part. I guess the we just have to start winning big, but I'm not certain that is going to change a thing as far as bringing anything to the table. For a decade KSU was good in football, good enough to dominate most teams from the south including Texas, and they are still in the same boat we are.
Except that you don't shut out your family at Thanksgiving dinner (particularly those who are struggling financially and CAN'T bring more to the table. It's not that they're being cheap, they're bringing what little they can), and if schools can't regard their conference partners in a similar manner, then it's not really a conference at all. The whole point of a conference is to help each other out. Otherwise everyone would be an independent. But Texas operates as an independent, or at least wants to, but they want to do it under the guise of being in a conference. That's not right.
If ISU has a soul its time to start selling it to the B10 and not our schedule filler conference.
If it's true that only five schools agreed to stay, that that is just insane. Texas just needs to go independent.
has to be with the other 4 orphans.....that is are on;ly chance of going anywhere worthwhile if the time comes.
What a joke. None of the 5 schools, besides Missouri possibly going to the Big 10, were even thinking about leaving the Big XII. Wow, I can't believe they actually did that. It solves nothing as Texas can still just get up and leave at any point. Which I feel is going to be sooner rather than later.
where is Texas gonna go and get their own TV network..plus get the bennies of a conference?
Once they get their own TV network up and running for a couple of years, they will still have the chance at going to the Pac 10 if they want them. If you think the Pac 10 is going to say no to them because they now have their own network, you're are crazy. They would jump at any chance to reel in Texas and the other schools following them.
Pac 10 said no to the TV network 2 weeks ago and was a major back breaker in texas not going.
Why would they change mindset after a couple of years?
Because right now it's developmental. It's an investment to Texas, but at this stage it's little more than a gamble for the Pac-10. If Texas succeeds with this network, the Pac-10 would be more than happy to let the Horns keep it. But the Pac won't bring them in when there's a 50-50 chance that the network fails.
I agree with tm3308. If there is no written agreement with very stiff penalties for leaving, the dynamics of the situation are pretty much as they were a few months ago. It is my impression that under the current by-laws, penalties can only be enforced if the conference stays together (current penalties require the future existence of a Big 12 conference which wouldn't stay together if Texas took other members with it west). We may be looking at Texas trying to start its network and test its viability over the next 1 - 3 years and then deciding to leave to form the Pac16 if a new money paradigm exists.
Keep in mind, the Pac10's current TV contracts (both ESPN and Fox) end after the 2011 - 2012 years just like the current Fox contract for the Big12. What if Larry Scott can leverage the Big12's situation to get contracts that would jump Texas's potential revenue from the ~20 million that's currently being offered to the 30 million range? If Texas lays the groundwork and possibly even launches the Longhorn Network in Spring 2011, could we see negotiations by the new Pac12 next spring possibly persuading Texas (with its new network) to form the Pac16 in 2011? I'm not saying it is going to happen, but I think ISU (and probably Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Baylor) has to develop an exit strategy with backroom deals in place to guarantee where they would go in case next year Texas bolts to join the Pac12.
Keep in mind, the Pac10's current TV contracts (both ESPN and Fox) end after the 2011 - 2012 years just like the current Fox contract for the Big12. What if Larry Scott can leverage the Big12's situation to get contracts that would jump Texas's potential revenue from the ~20 million that's currently being offered to the 30 million range? If Texas lays the groundwork and possibly even launches the Longhorn Network in Spring 2011, could we see negotiations by the new Pac12 next spring possibly persuading Texas (with its new network) to form the Pac16 in 2011? I'm not saying it is going to happen, but I think ISU (and probably Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Baylor) has to develop an exit strategy with backroom deals in place to guarantee where they would go in case next year Texas bolts to join the Pac12.
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