Jon Miller Predictions
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You know, Jon is just gulping the kool-aid. But that is what being a fanatic is all about. Ive been known to drink the kool-aid on many occasions. There is nothing sweeter.
The prediction isn't that suprising to me. It happens every year. Right after the season, everyone makes a logical guess as to how the next year will go with who's on the schedule and what players are coming back. Then about springtime, when their starters are beating up on some scrub in spring practice, the win total gets notched up a game. Then, the iowa hype storm starts swirling throughout the summer fueled by the Iowa media and a delusional fanbase. They hype storm is always at its apex at this very moment every year. They hype finally gets to the hok-homer prognosticators and they tack one more win onto the tally. The only difference with this season is that all those guys started higher than normal...9-3 or 10-2. Add in the two more wins that they always add over the offseason and you get 11-1 or 12-0.
Miller pretends to be a realist, but in truth is as big a joke as most Hock fans are. There is no way in hell Iowa ever sniffs a national title! They are without a doubt the most unrealistic fan base in all of sports. They pretend to be on the same level as Ohio State, Michigan, Florida, Texas, ect. The truth is they never have been and never will be.
Hey, does anybody remember the year iowa would have been undefeated and in the college championship game if only Iowa State had'nt come back in the 2nd half at iowa and given them their only regular season loss. That was heartbreaking.
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Other than the bolded line above (which is a pretty cocky and unnecessary statement), You're right in that there's nothing wrong with expecting to win. Of course most Ohio State or Texas fans think they have a shot at going 12-0 as well this year. I'll leave the fact that Iowa isn't on the same level of either of those programs out of the equation for now. The problem is that any pick that is little off the average pick will be criticized. I guarantee you if CW picked the Clones to go 8-4 or 9-3 HN would be ripping/questioning him as well. Just the way it works.
They won 10 games last year with 3d & 4th string RB's, an injury to the QB and all their tough games on the road. They start the season with Jewell Hampton this year, 2 experienced QB's who have demonstrated they can play at this level and all the tough games at home. You always need a little luck to win out, but it is very possible for this group.
The only difference is, Texas, OU, OSU and USC have all had undefeated seasons and won national championships in the last ten years, so it's really not unreasonable for them to expect that. When was Iowa's last undefeated season or national championship? Oh, that's right...
That being said, I think Iowa will have a great season. I hope they lose every game, but obviously they won't. Realistically, I'd expect a 10-2 season again from them. There's only two teams that could probably beat them on paper in OSU and Wisconsin, so naturally they'll win one of those games. Probably Wisky. Then they always lose a game they have no business losing, probably Indiana or Purdue (they'll be too prepared for Northwestern this year).
CycloneErik
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Even if Iowa wins that game by 50, they still don't go to the championship game. They were not going to pass Miami or Ohio State.
This is why this man should not be on a BTN show, he is an absolute idiot when talking about Iowa football and is not even in the "in-crowd" KF probably does not even know his name oh and he knows nothing outside of Iowa. You would never see CW say crap like this to keep his credibility.
I did word that horribly. My apologies. The point I was trying to get across is that, considering Iowa's success the last ten years, I don't think it's out of the norm to be expecting greatness from the upcoming season. I find it hard to believe that if ISU had finished in the top ten four times there wouldn't be some title predictions from your fanbase. Had ISU finished #7 last season and had the majority of those players returning, we both know you would see similar predictions on this site.
If Iowa were a team that consistently only finished in the 15-20 range, and then these predictions were being made, I would probably be laughing with you with some of the perfect predictions. But that's not the case. Also, it's not just our fans that are making these predictions. There is a lot of national talk about Iowa right now. So it's not just Jon Miller that is "on crack" apparently. I'm aware that there was in 2006 as well and we laid an egg. That team did not have the senior leadeship or the talent to handle those kinds of expectations. It will be interesting to see how this team handles it.
Again, I'm not predicting an undefeated season. I just don't see why it's considered so far fetched on this site.
This. Jeeeez Iowa hasnt even won but 1 outright Big 10 title since the 80's.
Ditto. That game had nothing to do with Iowa missing the NC game that year. Both Miami and OSU were undefeated and Iowa wouldn't have jumped either one. I know ISU fans like to think that though even though it's wrong.
Fair enough. You should win one before you expect one. I can appreciate that logic. But how much fun is that? As long as it is kept in perspective, what's wrong with predicting greatness? The 'perspective' part is what I'm worried about with our message boards. But I've never believed that message boards represent an entire fanbase.
The truth is Iowa was in the hunt for a title last year before Stanzi went down. I'm not saying they would have won had he not been injured. What I am saying is that it was within their reach. I still say that if the roles were reversed, you would see plenty of ISU fans predicting a title this season. And you would also see plenty of Iowa fans telling them how idiotic they were. Aren't rivalries fun!
my thoughts are why is that not a possibility? they play the toughest two games at home, and have a good running game and an outstanding defense. If this was our team we would think the same things. If your a fan and have this kind of team coming back, you should expect to win it all. if you didnt i would say there was something wrong with you as a fan.
for them i think 9-12 wins is very possible. i think ISU, at Arizona, at Michigan, Ohio State, and Northwestern are the games to worry about.
Now i foresee a loss in their future, but winning them all is just as possible for them as it is anyone else in the league.
The biggest issue I have with the prediction is that there is a certain amount of luck involved with going to the NC game, let alone undefeated. Last year Texas almost lost the Big XII chamionship (what if McCoy had put a little more air under that last pass?) and Alabama had to block a last second field goal (against Tennessee?) to stay undefeated. Those were two pretty freaking good teams...
It will be interesting to see how things go with such high expectations placed on the Hawks this year. In years past, even when starting the season highly ranked, they always seemed to play second fiddle to OSU, Michgan, etc. Now they will be running with the big boys and they can't play the "disrespect" card in any game this year.
It will be interesting to see how things go with such high expectations placed on the Hawks this year. In years past, even when starting the season highly ranked, they always seemed to play second fiddle to OSU, Michgan, etc. Now they will be running with the big boys and they can't play the "disrespect" card in any game this year.
And I understand that. I don't think 12-0 is out of the question either. But neither would say, 8-4 for ISU, if everything went perfectly (same conditions that would have to occur for Iowa to be 12-0) and that seems to be being ridiculed on HN as well. Most Iowa fans I talk to are somewhere around the 10-2 range, so I can understand people saying Jon is a little drunk on the koolaid if he is going with 12-0, just like I would say if an ISU fan said 8-4 for us.
Can I ask why 8-4 is out of the question? Win the seven home games and the neutral game in Kansas City?
