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tazclone

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I was wrong. Once JT went in, it eliminated
  1. penalties
  2. KOs penalties in the red zone
  3. poor throws
  4. poor OL play
  5. misreads by the RBs
  6. poor downfield blocks
  7. no separation
The offense looked great last night once AA went down. WE were able to throw the ball all over the FCS's 79th ranked (after last night before that they were ranked 106th) passing defense:jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad:

On a good note, I don't remember a drop last night
 
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I was wrong. Once JT went in, it eliminated
  1. penalties
  2. KOs penalties in the red zone
  3. poor throws
  4. poor OL play
  5. misreads by the RBs
  6. poor downfield blocks
  7. no separation

On a good note, I don't remember a drop last night

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Of those, JT could be responsible for #3. To day he didn't have bad throws is a little much. He was 11 of 22 after all. He can't control mental mistakes of others and I highly doubt the OL blocks better depending on who's behind center.

I'll support JT when he's playing, but to think that he's the answer to our questions is a little much.

Everybody is in love w/ JT right now. People tend to look at last night and remember Nebraska last year. Nobody mentions the week after Nebraska. Let's say that he plays next week. Who's to say that he's going to be successful against TT? Then what?
 
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Tiller didn't turn the ball over, but that was about the only positive. Time after time, he missed wide open receivers (Darks and Sed looked frustrated). I would say more than a couple of his completions were still bad throws where the receiver had to adjust to catch it, then got tackled immediately thereafter because of it. I realize being a QB for a BCS team is a tough task, but we really need someone to fill that role.

Our defense outscored our offense.
 
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Tiller didn't turn the ball over, but that was about the only positive. Time after time, he missed wide open receivers (Darks and Sed looked frustrated). I would say more than a couple of his completions were still bad throws where the receiver had to adjust to catch it, then got tackled immediately thereafter because of it. I realize being a QB for a BCS team is a tough task, but we really need someone to fill that role.

Our defense outscored our offense.


THIS +1,000,000
 
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SuperCy

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Tiller didn't turn the ball over, but that was about the only positive. Time after time, he missed wide open receivers (Darks and Sed looked frustrated). I would say more than a couple of his completions were still bad throws where the receiver had to adjust to catch it, then got tackled immediately thereafter because of it. I realize being a QB for a BCS team is a tough task, but we really need someone to fill that role.

Our defense outscored our offense.

I noticed that as well. Their body language just showed that they were upset.

Was it Whitver that said JT knows what receiver he's thowing it to right away. If he's covered then he just takes off running? That seems to be about right. I'm not sure how much he's working through the progressions.
 

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I was wrong. Once JT went in, it eliminated
  1. penalties
  2. KOs penalties in the red zone
  3. poor throws
  4. poor OL play
  5. misreads by the RBs
  6. poor downfield blocks
  7. no separation
The offense looked great last night once AA went down. WE were able to throw the ball all over the FCS's 79th ranked (after last night before that they were ranked 16th) passing defense:jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad::jimlad:

On a good note, I don't remember a drop last night

im confused as hell. what just happened?
 

tazclone

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Of those, JT could be responsible for #3. To day he didn't have bad throws is a little much. He was 11 of 22 after all. He can't control mental mistakes of others and I highly doubt the OL blocks better depending on who's behind center.

I'll support JT when he's playing, but to think that he's the answer to our questions is a little much.

Everybody is in love w/ JT right now. People tend to look at last night and remember Nebraska last year. Nobody mentions the week after Nebraska. Let's say that he plays next week. Who's to say that he's going to be successful against TT? Then what?

If your responding to me...note the JIMLAD sarcasm pirate. Our QB is not the only thing wrong with our offense. There are many other things
 

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im confused as hell. what just happened?

Of those, JT could be responsible for #3. To day he didn't have bad throws is a little much. He was 11 of 22 after all. He can't control mental mistakes of others and I highly doubt the OL blocks better depending on who's behind center.

I'll support JT when he's playing, but to think that he's the answer to our questions is a little much.

Everybody is in love w/ JT right now. People tend to look at last night and remember Nebraska last year. Nobody mentions the week after Nebraska. Let's say that he plays next week. Who's to say that he's going to be successful against TT? Then what?


I believe the original poster was being sarcastic (thus the profuse use of Jimlad). They were pointing out that many fans think that all of the offensive woes are/were the fault of Arnaud and would magically disappear with the insertion of Tiller at QB. Last night illustrated that, while Arnaud does have issues, Tiller isn't the cure-all many were thinking/hoping he would be.

Post #10.
 
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tazclone

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our QB play is the worst element of this team

Disagree. Our run game has been disappointing compared to last year as well. What has changed? We still have the same inept passing game and defenses are still keying on the run. What has changed? One could argue that we have faced tougher teams but iowa and KSU are the same teams and UNI and NIU = Army and Kent St.

Our personnel changes on offense include one NFL lineman and another that had NFL potential. We also lost a WR that is on an NFL practice squad. Nothing else has changed. More penalties, less scoring.
 

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Disagree. Our run game has been disappointing compared to last year as well. What has changed? We still have the same inept passing game and defenses are still keying on the run. What has changed? One could argue that we have faced tougher teams but iowa and KSU are the same teams and UNI and NIU = Army and Kent St.

Our personnel changes on offense include one NFL lineman and another that had NFL potential. We also lost a WR that is on an NFL practice squad. Nothing else has changed. More penalties, less scoring.
It's a leadership problem. That usually comes from the QB.
 

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It's a leadership problem. That usually comes from the QB.

It is a combination of MANY problems. The OL play has sucked. HOW many times have we had Illegal Procedures and Holds that have absolutely killed drives?

Then add in the fact that the WR's have rarely gotten great separation. Next add in erratic passing by our QB.

What you get is inconsistent offensive output. And that is EXACTLY what we have. At times we move the ball. And then comes the penalty or the errant pass, or the dropped pass or the coverage sack. The offense has not been clicking.

The defense is once again the brightest spot on the team.
 
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It's a leadership problem. That usually comes from the QB.
I disagree, that usually comes from the coaches. I don't think it is a leadership problem, I think it is a focus problem or just a lack of identity problem. The coaches need to emphasize what we are good at and build on that.
 

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