Royce White's strength

[Mclone]

Strength does not a good basketball player make.

It certainly makes a better basketball player. If you take two players of equal ability, each working on developing their basketball game for 3 hours a day and for the fourth hour each day one works on conditioning and the other works on a full body strength program, I would be very surprised if the one who works on the strength program doesn't become a better player. In addition to the known benefits of weight training, there is a confidence that comes from getting physically stronger that carries over to the basketball court.

I've seen plenty of talented basketball players that become timid once someone who might not be quite as talented gets a little physical with them.

 

[c.y.c.l.o.n.e.s]

Royce whites bench is impressive. But hell, looking at this years draft benching thats terrible. I beat more than half of those guys and im not a "serious lifter" at all or workout as much as them. I mean brackins at 6???? Thats not good at all.

As has been mentioned, long arms make bench pressing difficult.

Craig is 6'8.5" and has a 7' wingspan. Those are some seriously long arms.

 

[Clone9]

It certainly makes a better basketball player. If you take two players of equal ability, each working on developing their basketball game for 3 hours a day and for the fourth hour each day one works on conditioning and the other works on a full body strength program, I would be very surprised if the one who works on the strength program doesn't become a better player. In addition to the known benefits of weight training, there is a confidence that comes from getting physically stronger that carries over to the basketball court.

I've seen plenty of talented basketball players that become timid once someone who might not be quite as talented gets a little physical with them.

Kevin Durant.

 

[timappelgate]

Had to be Ejim at 14.

Or Calvin.

 

[Cyznutz]

It certainly makes a better basketball player. If you take two players of equal ability, each working on developing their basketball game for 3 hours a day and for the fourth hour each day one works on conditioning and the other works on a full body strength program, I would be very surprised if the one who works on the strength program doesn't become a better player. In addition to the known benefits of weight training, there is a confidence that comes from getting physically stronger that carries over to the basketball court.

I've seen plenty of talented basketball players that become timid once someone who might not be quite as talented gets a little physical with them.

I would take the athlete doing conditioning. With skill being equal, the more conditioned athlete is less susceptible to fatigue and can perform their skill (basketball) at a high level for a longer period of time. Strength is important; what’s the point of being strong if you can’t carry that strength late in to the second half because you've burn all your adaptive reserves in the first half? The strength can’t carry on because there is no energy to supply the muscles!

 

[cyclonedave25]

I would take the athlete doing conditioning. With skill being equal, the more conditioned athlete is less susceptible to fatigue and can perform their skill (basketball) at a high level for a longer period of time. Strength is important; what’s the point of being strong if you can’t carry that strength late in to the second half because you've burn all your adaptive reserves in the first half? The strength can’t carry on because there is no energy to supply the muscles!

We can solve this by doing both at the same time with, high intensity interval training and supersetting resistance exercises. You get the anerobic and aerobic workout in one. Now, you won't be getting any big time powerlifters on the team this way, but you will get the players stronger and better conditioned. Besides, doing 1 hour of nothing but conditioning is quite a bit for a basketball player.

 

[Cyznutz]

We can solve this by doing both at the same time with, high intensity interval training and supersetting resistance exercises. You get the anerobic and aerobic workout in one. Now, you won't be getting any big time powerlifters on the team this way, but you will get the players stronger and better conditioned. Besides, doing 1 hour of nothing but conditioning is quite a bit for a basketball player.

What specific types of adaptations are you looking to occur doing this type of training? Strength training is just general physical preparation, that’s it. You don’t need high volumes in the weight room to get strong. Why is one hr of conditioning too much to ask of a BB player? Again it the quality of training over the quantity of it! Remember that basketball is an alactic/aerobic-lactic sport where as football is a alactic/aerobic sport.

 

[cyclonedave25]

What specific types of adaptations are you looking to occur doing this type of training? Strength training is just general physical preparation, that’s it. You don’t need high volumes in the weight room to get strong. Why is one hr of conditioning too much to ask of a BB player? Again it the quality of training over the quantity of it! Remember that basketball is an alactic/aerobic-lactic sport where as football is a alactic/aerobic sport.

Well they were talking about conditioning or strength training. Combine the two and you kill 2 birds with one stone.
1 hour of straight conditioning is quite a bit, most teams might do 30 mins of hard conditioning at the end of practice, if that. Like you said, quality over quantity, you can get a great aerobic workout in, in under 30 mins when done right.

 

[Rickybaby]

So we still didn't get an answer. Come on Chris, spill the beans ... who came in second with 14?

 

[dualthreat]

22 reps at 185 would be about a 325 max give or take

 

[ajk4st8]

I heard Matt Knoll crunched 440 on the bench.

 

[t-noah]

Anybody know what Michael Jordan's routine was? Seems to me I remember one of the announcers commenting, during his heyday, how he would go lift weights after every game. Don't know what he did exactly, but I wouldn't doubt that he combined significant strength training along with higher rep stuff, plyometrics, core, quickness and agility drills, flexibility, etc. Probably had a pretty good coach too. As I recall, he did OK!

 

[Cydkar]

Kevin Durant.

Outlier. I personally think a stronger Kevin Durant would be even better(scary). LeBron James wouldn't be the player he is without his strength.

 

[Rural]

I'm sure he weight trains now but I think LeBron still falls in the freak of nature department.
He's really a one in billions type athlete who probably could have held his own in the NBA when he was 15.

 

[Cyznutz]

Outlier. I personally think a stronger Kevin Durant would be even better(scary). LeBron James wouldn't be the player he is without his strength.

So, strength is the reason why his technique-tactical skills are good? I dont get it?

 

[Cydkar]

So, strength is the reason why his technique-tactical skills are good? I dont get it?

No, apparently you don't and I'm not patient enough to change that.

NBA and college players weight train for a reason. You might want to speak to one of them.

 

[Cyznutz]

No, apparently you don't and I'm not patient enough to change that.

NBA and college players weight train for a reason. You might want to speak to one of them.

I do think it’s important, but strength has nothing to do with skill! They are two totally different qualities! I know why they weight train do you? Remember, you don’t need DB's and Barbells to strength train! "weight train" has to have a end result, without one whats the point of doing it?

 

[Cydkar]

I never said it increased anyone's skill level although I could argue that it helps maintain a certain skill level under certain game time duress(sp).

I think you are arguing a point I never even made.

 

[Cyznutz]

I never said it increased anyone's skill level although I could argue that it helps maintain a certain skill level under certain game time duress(sp).

I think you are arguing a point I never even made.

You said "LeBron James wouldn't be the player he is without his strength." So if he was weak, he wouldn't have been a good basketball player? This is what I'm talking about.

 

[Aclone]

You said "LeBron James wouldn't be the player he is without his strength." So if he was weak, he wouldn't have been a good basketball player? This is what I'm talking about.

I thought that it was pretty straightforward, that without his strength LeBron wouldn't be able to utilize his considerable skills as well or as consistently--let alone as enduringly.

What was so hard to understand?