Almost lost to Bimington!!!

mitchforcy

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We are Iowa State how the **** did we almost lose to ******* Bimington? :realmad:
 

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Bing has a pretty solid program. We're in a transition right now. Well, more like, I HOPE we're just in a transition.
 

cyfan964

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Binghamton is better than a school that doesn't exist. I was worried we almost lost to a school I had never even heard of.
 

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we forfeited again? how does a D-1 program like iowa state with 30 kids on the team forfeit a weight?

:skeptical:
 

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People on here like to rip Cael, and rooted for Iowa today. Fine, at least with Sanderson we were still in the national scene. Now we're irrelevant.
 

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Jones wrestles his heart out, but he isn't a Big XII level guy. I think that even he assumed he'd be a career backup prior to the loss of Long and Clark. He's been pushed into the varsity slot due to need and doing his best, but 125 has been a huge hole this whole season. Jones is a true freshman who we had to toss to the wolves this year, but he's continued fighting.

Cash is similar to Jones, though a redshirt freshman. A guy who is on the team because he wants to wrestle and got tossed into the lineup due to the aftermath of Cael leaving. 133 is a hole this year, but Cash came up big today, showing that he hasn't given up on the season.

Drouin is still out with a concussion and all our backups at 141 are redshirts. Though if we'd known how long he'd be out I wonder if somebodies redshirt would have gotten pulled.

Mayfield had tough matches against the #2 and #12 ranked guys today. He's solid, but not at that level. Carr might be back in the lineup soon.

Weatherman got two pins today. One of them against the #9 guy. It seems like he finally remembered that he's pretty good at wrestling. Hopefully this is a turning point for him.

Sorenson beat a top ranked guy and then lost to a guy who AAed last year. Sorenson should have won that match, I'm guessing he was totally focused on Cornell and didn't give the Binghamton guy the respect he should have. Hopefully he'll correct that for March. Beating one elite guy and then falling to another (who isn't having an AA season so far) isn't going to get him on the podium.

Reader beat last year's runner up (currently ranked #3) with a dominating performance that was not as close as the score indicates. Then avoided a letdown by teching Binghamton's guy.

Shafer got pinned by the #7 guy and then dominated the #10 guy. I'm not happy with the Cornell loss, but the Binghamton win is huge.

Ward still confuses me. He has the talent and the coaching to get onto the podium in March, but he just can't go three periods (or even one sometimes). I wonder if his knee is holding him back. Hawes did what he could as a backup, but there is a reason Ward is our starter despite his problems.

Simonson showed that while he still doesn't quite have the toolset to beat top talent, he's well above most heavyweights.

We were upset in one match today, and a slight upset at that. We upset several top ten guys. We need Drouin back badly, but our guys continue to outperform expectations.
 

CyBroncos

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People on here like to rip Cael, and rooted for Iowa today. Fine, at least with Sanderson we were still in the national scene. Now we're irrelevant.

Yeah it's going to take a while to rebuild from Cael leaving. Cael was a recruiting machine...KJ is really going to have to step up in that area if we want to get back to being a competitive team in the top 5 at nationals.
 

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we forfeited again? how does a D-1 program like iowa state with 30 kids on the team forfeit a weight?

:skeptical:

You do realize you can't put a 157 pounder in at 141. We don't have a 141 pounder except Goettl (A true freshman). We are not going to pull a redshirt for some duals when we expect Drouin back. Yes its taking long than we thought, but nationals is when you want him healthy. KJ might remember what happen to Reader at nationals with his concussion and decided not to push Drouin to soon. Error on the side of caution.
 

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You do realize you can't put a 157 pounder in at 141. We don't have a 141 pounder except Goettl (A true freshman). We are not going to pull a redshirt for some duals when we expect Drouin back. Yes its taking long than we thought, but nationals is when you want him healthy. KJ might remember what happen to Reader at nationals with his concussion and decided not to push Drouin to soon. Error on the side of caution.

Nowadays I don't think it is even Jackson's call. All ISU athletes take a concussion test before the season (even club athletes are encouraged to take the test, though they have to pay for it out of pocket), and until Drouin passes that, he's out regardless. I wonder what kind of practice regime he is on though. Hopefully they've come up with something that'll keep him in wrestling shape while he's out. Maybe bicycle sprints in a dimly lit sauna...

Yeah it's going to take a while to rebuild from Cael leaving. Cael was a recruiting machine...KJ is really going to have to step up in that area if we want to get back to being a competitive team in the top 5 at nationals.

Jackson's first real class is redshirting right now. Until next year we won't have any idea about his recruiting abilities.
 
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we forfeited again? how does a D-1 program like iowa state with 30 kids on the team forfeit a weight?

:skeptical:
I was wondering the same thing. I looked on the roster and there are 6 wrestlers listed as 125 lbs., only 1 at 133, and only 1 at 141. Wouldn't we be better off letting a 125 lb. guy wrestle at 141 than taking a forfeit in each dual meet? I realize that giving up 16 lbs is alot, but even if the 125 lb. guy could avoid getting pinned or a major decision it saves 3 pts. in the team score. Am I missing something here?
 

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Jones wrestles his heart out, but he isn't a Big XII level guy. I think that even he assumed he'd be a career backup prior to the loss of Long and Clark. He's been pushed into the varsity slot due to need and doing his best, but 125 has been a huge hole this whole season. Jones is a true freshman who we had to toss to the wolves this year, but he's continued fighting.

Cash is similar to Jones, though a redshirt freshman. A guy who is on the team because he wants to wrestle and got tossed into the lineup due to the aftermath of Cael leaving. 133 is a hole this year, but Cash came up big today, showing that he hasn't given up on the season.

Drouin is still out with a concussion and all our backups at 141 are redshirts. Though if we'd known how long he'd be out I wonder if somebodies redshirt would have gotten pulled.

Mayfield had tough matches against the #2 and #12 ranked guys today. He's solid, but not at that level. Carr might be back in the lineup soon.

Weatherman got two pins today. One of them against the #9 guy. It seems like he finally remembered that he's pretty good at wrestling. Hopefully this is a turning point for him.

Sorenson beat a top ranked guy and then lost to a guy who AAed last year. Sorenson should have won that match, I'm guessing he was totally focused on Cornell and didn't give the Binghamton guy the respect he should have. Hopefully he'll correct that for March. Beating one elite guy and then falling to another (who isn't having an AA season so far) isn't going to get him on the podium.

Reader beat last year's runner up (currently ranked #3) with a dominating performance that was not as close as the score indicates. Then avoided a letdown by teching Binghamton's guy.

Shafer got pinned by the #7 guy and then dominated the #10 guy. I'm not happy with the Cornell loss, but the Binghamton win is huge.

Ward still confuses me. He has the talent and the coaching to get onto the podium in March, but he just can't go three periods (or even one sometimes). I wonder if his knee is holding him back. Hawes did what he could as a backup, but there is a reason Ward is our starter despite his problems.

Simonson showed that while he still doesn't quite have the toolset to beat top talent, he's well above most heavyweights.

We were upset in one match today, and a slight upset at that. We upset several top ten guys. We need Drouin back badly, but our guys continue to outperform expectations.


Sounds like a .500 team. :spinny:

I would hate to lose to Bimington almost more than UNI.:realmad:Bimington will never beat our team. Hang that on your Wall of Prestige. :v_SPIN:Bingmington NEVER beat us yet.:yes:
 

Wesley

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I was wondering the same thing. I looked on the roster and there are 6 wrestlers listed as 125 lbs., only 1 at 133, and only 1 at 141. Wouldn't we be better off letting a 125 lb. guy wrestle at 141 than taking a forfeit in each dual meet? I realize that giving up 16 lbs is alot, but even if the 125 lb. guy could avoid getting pinned or a major decision it saves 3 pts. in the team score. Am I missing something here?
Heck, we might even have won the match with Bimington if we had subbes a 125 lb in that forfeit match. Maybe the 141 lb might have tripped and we fell on him.