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*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
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I agree that Sherman will probably not prove to be "the guy" that turns A&M around, but to alarson's point, A&M has all the necessary resources to compete at the same level that Arkansas does in the SEC. They have lots of money, great facilities, they are in a huge state that is loaded with recruits. They have some great tradition and they will have a unique story to tell recruits in Texas if they go to the SEC.
They can compete, if and when they find a very good coach.
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"Adrian Peterson comes back from NFL has one year of eligibility left, decides to play for Iowa State".
If someone were to check the College Football Data Warehouse, I'm pretty sure A&M was the best in the south when the Big 12 formed, top 10, like 1 or 2 loss seasons. I think former ISU assistant Jackie Sherrill was the HC at least part of that time.
Texas beating Nebraska for the first conference title was a fairly big upset, and likely cost NU the the national title as I recall.
OU was also down, barely top 20; I think OSU was about as good or better.
Besides Nebraska, Colorado also won a national title not long before the Big 12 formed, and KSU similarly was at or about to become a consistent top 10 team. Texas rose, and of course OU, but the North was the toughest at first, and I'm pretty sure A&M was the best in the South and top 10 when the conference formed.
That is correct. They were in the title game in 97 and 98, losing to NE in 97, winning in 98 against KState. Prior to the fomation of the b12 they were in the top 10 from 92-94
I agree they will fare about as well as Arkansas has. But I wouldn't call that success. By the looks of it, Arkansas is 127-97-2 overall, 72-76-2 in conference, and has no conference titles. It ain't terrible but it ain't great either.
They have also played in the SEC championship game a couple times in the past 5 years, played in a BCS game, had a couple of Heisman candidates, and have their highest pre-season ranking in several years this year. Their history may not be great, but they have risen to the challenge in the SEC and are a program to contend with. Under Houston Nutt they were a flash in the pan with McFadden, but Petrino is reloading this team vs. rebuilding now.
The Poor Aggies from College Station are set to make their biggest mistake in the last 100 yrs or so by leaving the Greatest Football Conference in the Land....
Sit down my children and I shall tell you a story of woe....The Aggies are like 20 games under 500 against Southeastern Conference Opponents....
With a Lifetime record like that the Aggies are poised for the bottom half of the West Division of the SEC....
Good for them now maybe they will see life in a more Losing Realm of College football.
TIMBER MY CHILDREN OF AGGIELAND....that was just the Axe falling on Mike Sherman and good ol boy mike hitting the ground er door on the way outta town.
Mark my words boys and girls this is the feel good moment of the year for Aggie fans to spite TU .....
Followed by the reality of Losing Football in the SEC...
Good Luck Aggies...U-Gonna Need it with that new and improved schedule :twitcy:
Sit down my children and I shall tell you a story of woe....The Aggies are like 20 games under 500 against Southeastern Conference Opponents....
With a Lifetime record like that the Aggies are poised for the bottom half of the West Division of the SEC....
Good for them now maybe they will see life in a more Losing Realm of College football.
TIMBER MY CHILDREN OF AGGIELAND....that was just the Axe falling on Mike Sherman and good ol boy mike hitting the ground er door on the way outta town.
Mark my words boys and girls this is the feel good moment of the year for Aggie fans to spite TU .....
Followed by the reality of Losing Football in the SEC...
Good Luck Aggies...U-Gonna Need it with that new and improved schedule :twitcy:
Yes, arkansas is doing better now but kansas was doing pretty good under mangino. How they doing now? You can pick out high points for any team. What does history say?
Sounds like BYU isn't the lock some are predicting... sounds like they are waiting on a ND decision...
The Upset: Source: BYU contacted by Big 12
The Upset: Source: BYU contacted by Big 12
History says 1 national championship, 13 conference titles, 30 bowl games, 667 wins to 450 losses.
Couple questions on the BYU speculations - does anyone know if they were invited to the Pac 10 in the last go round and 2) why they turned that down if they were?
Does BYU really think they are going to force the terms of entry with the likes of Texas and ND? Doubt it. This is why I find it unlikely the big 12 finds a suitable expansion partner that solidifies anything long term, any team other than ND teams we court will think they have leverage and egos will not stand for that.
Finally, if BYU does in fact join - does this kill our chances of enjoying a beer that was purchased inside the stadium?
Also, does anyone find it incredibly risky to publicly appeal to 3 major teams that if turned down, will solidify the big 12's position as a conference that is likely to be realigned? I am all for getting after it, by why the sources, the leaks, etc. Just do your thing and if it works out shock us all and put us back on the map
Does BYU really think they are going to force the terms of entry with the likes of Texas and ND? Doubt it. This is why I find it unlikely the big 12 finds a suitable expansion partner that solidifies anything long term, any team other than ND teams we court will think they have leverage and egos will not stand for that.
Finally, if BYU does in fact join - does this kill our chances of enjoying a beer that was purchased inside the stadium?
Also, does anyone find it incredibly risky to publicly appeal to 3 major teams that if turned down, will solidify the big 12's position as a conference that is likely to be realigned? I am all for getting after it, by why the sources, the leaks, etc. Just do your thing and if it works out shock us all and put us back on the map
Yeah... it wouldve been easy just to say 'we've had no contact from the big 12'
As someone who's been to Provo, I guarantee there are no beer sales in the stadium. I've heard people complain about the atmosphere in Waco. Waco will look like New Orleans on Mardi Gras in comparison.
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