Yup, some of the instability of this conference could be blamed on ****** journalists. OU said nothing close to that.
*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****
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I put this in the aTm thread, but I'll say it here too:
IF the Big XII explodes, I think the best bet for us is:
OU, OSU, UT and TT head west to the PAC-12/16. Mizzou is accepted by the SEC (new state, new TV markets, etc). Iowa State/K-State/KU to the Big East and are put in a division with Louisville, TCU and Cincy for football.
The ACC would stay at 12, the SEC would be alright with their 14 and I think the B1G would sit tight to see how a 16 team league would pan out in the west.
I think our safest bet in an "end of the world" scenario is that KU is set adrift with ISU and KSU. They are by far the strongest of the three brands and I think we make a far stronger package with them than a trio of ISU/KSU/Baylor when we knock on the Big East's door.
If UT would decide to fly solo, I think KU would slip into their place in the PAC-12/16. You could make an interesting argument for K-State over TT in that case for academics, but let's face it, both are bad and Stanford isn't going to love either. In the case that Texas Tech is left behind, I would see Iowa State, Baylor and TT getting the nod to the Big East... but more precarious position for us in that case as we would be an isolated NW team for football.
Hope and faith are good for campaign adds - but others will word it as: crap in one hand, wish in the other. One of them will fill up first.
Logic suggests this is the most likely outcome of a Big 12 explosion. Part of the reason I'm really not worried.
People need to realize that this, the ESPN article linked, and the AP article linked in the KC Star are all just a subset of a much longer press conference held earlier today. A lot more was said than what is in these articles. The transcript for the first half of the press conference was linked here a few pages back. Sorry I'm not going back to find it, but know that the most recent postings are from the same source and do not represent everything that was said earlier today. It isn't new.
This is not new information, but the same information reported in different ways.
OU may leave in the end and is being contacted by other conferences, but it is at the center of trying to find new members to keep the conference together, and the OU president has been spending all of his time on this.
Pollard also is working on a contingency plan. He just doesn't blab it to the media for them to twist his words like OU does.
I don't get Boren. He has to know that comments like his throws ice cold water on every prospective member the conference is trying to get. The key words are conference stability -especially from the big names. Oklahoma decides to publicly announce that their being courted by others, and they are going to thing about it for three weeks?!?
I've been somewhat calm during this go-around this year, but this move baffles me. This is nothing short of sabotage, and this conference seems to be going down.
It's a shame that ISU is in this spot and only able to watch from the sidelines - in slow motion, much like a car wreck.
I've been somewhat calm during this go-around this year, but this move baffles me. This is nothing short of sabotage, and this conference seems to be going down.
It's a shame that ISU is in this spot and only able to watch from the sidelines - in slow motion, much like a car wreck.
And why did the Big East have to expand?
Because teams left the conference for greener pastures. And who did they expand with? Teams looking to step up, not BCS Conference schools.
Sounds like you think the Big East will be stable until other conferences decide to make a move.
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What makes you think ISU is watching from the sidelines. Were we watching from the sidelines last year? He'll no we weren't. And we aren't this year.
It's not really a melt down, just lack of people pumping out the optimism to mask the truth of the past week (really past year).
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There is nothing Pollard can do. Who would answer his calls? What can he offer? The best hope was in the conference surviving and growing
But if the big 12 imploded, who will they be expanding with this time? Ding ding. BIG 12 teams I.e. BCS teams. They will offer every Big 12 leftover they can get.
AND I also don't see more than one or 2 teams leaving. SEC will go to 14 and ACC and BIG 10 will stay at 12 for now.
When you read what he actually said, you can see how the ESPN headline just blew it WIDE open, out of proportion.
The reason why OU's comments are troubling:
OU: "We will do what's in the best interest of the University of Oklahoma."
ISU: "We are committed to the Big XII."
OU: "We will do what's in the best interest of the University of Oklahoma."
ISU: "We are committed to the Big XII."
Bingo. I've quit taking ESPN seriously. Spin/agenda, whatever it is, has been a little over the top the past couple weeks.
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