I'm sure everything will change in another hour, but this does indeed seem to be the most likely option at this minute. PAC16, ACC16, SEC14, Big10(12), Big East-Big 12 merge to create a 10-12 team conference...Until the Big 10 and SEC continue to expand in the next few years. Even if you put in crazy exit penalties for these schools, they'll pay the $50 million in order to exit.
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I'm sure everything will change in another hour, but this does indeed seem to be the most likely option at this minute. PAC16, ACC16, SEC14, Big10(12), Big East-Big 12 merge to create a 10-12 team conference...Until the Big 10 and SEC continue to expand in the next few years. Even if you put in crazy exit penalties for these schools, they'll pay the $50 million in order to exit.
Big 10's expanding options.
Notre Dame
Rutgers? Let's hope they go ACC
ISU
Mizzou - hoping they go SEC
KU
KSU
Louisville - small chance
WVU - small chance
Va Tech - don't know why they would leave ACC, but could
KU and KSU, combined, only bring you Jayhawk basketball. If ND joins B1G, ISU and Mizzou make the most sense, since you probably aren't too worried about Kansas and Iowa markets.
Notre Dame
Rutgers? Let's hope they go ACC
ISU
Mizzou - hoping they go SEC
KU
KSU
Louisville - small chance
WVU - small chance
Va Tech - don't know why they would leave ACC, but could
KU and KSU, combined, only bring you Jayhawk basketball. If ND joins B1G, ISU and Mizzou make the most sense, since you probably aren't too worried about Kansas and Iowa markets.
Our research dollars would add to the CIC and help the Big 10 make more money. Don't forget, ISU is the only university in the country with a DOE headquarters.
Maybe not in the TV money, but you could increase the subscription fee in the state and make more TV money too.
That is only if you use teams that are in BE indy or B12. The B1G thinks they are good enough/important enough that if they want an ACC team they will be able to persuade them to join
These statements in the BYU article are right on...
BYU Football, Pickett’s Charge, and an Unsettled Future | Loyal Cougars
- The blowout loss to Utah was a mere dumpster fire when compared to the Texas to the Pac-16 nuclear winter.
- If the 4 Super Conferences enact the Plus-1 format, teams like Boise, BYU, Navy will be officially locked out of any semblance of a championship hope. The BCS has tacitly accomplished this already. Super Conferences will make it explicit.
- If you thought the BCS was exclusionary to the non-power leagues, you ain’t seen anything yet.
- If the other 3 Super Conferences enact a Pac-12 esque Out-Of-Conference scheduling rule, forbidding teams from playing non-league games past week 3, you can kiss away any opportunity to be an independent.
BYU Football, Pickett’s Charge, and an Unsettled Future | Loyal Cougars
- The blowout loss to Utah was a mere dumpster fire when compared to the Texas to the Pac-16 nuclear winter.
- If the 4 Super Conferences enact the Plus-1 format, teams like Boise, BYU, Navy will be officially locked out of any semblance of a championship hope. The BCS has tacitly accomplished this already. Super Conferences will make it explicit.
- If you thought the BCS was exclusionary to the non-power leagues, you ain’t seen anything yet.
- If the other 3 Super Conferences enact a Pac-12 esque Out-Of-Conference scheduling rule, forbidding teams from playing non-league games past week 3, you can kiss away any opportunity to be an independent.
But Texas has offered concessions to equal the playing field in the B12. OU's position is the B12 is irrelavent without A&M....that just is so wrong.
If I was a school like BYU I'd file an anti-trust lawsuit...Schools like BYU are being unfairly excluded from the party and they will be essentially locked out from the party because of their religious status and location.
These superconferences are essentially controlling 100% of the power just like US companies have done in the past and eliminating all competition. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but these superconferences seem very similar to anti-trust cases.
Notre Dame - in if they ever decide they want in
Rutgers - probably in if for whatever reason they don't go along with UConn, Syracuse, and Pitt
ISU - it looks a LOT better than it did two days ago
Mizzou - would take B1G over SEC
KU - ACC isn't looking like an option, wants to stay within the Eastern time zone.
KSU - not a chance. Their academics are horrible by B1G standards and they're not AAU
Louisville - ditto
WVU - ditto
Va Tech - the only way I see them leaving the ACC is for the SEC
I honestly think ISU's path to the B1G just got a hell of a lot clearer. Notre Dame, ISU, KU, and Mizzou would be one hell of a package for that conference.
Did he connect with his vast network of contacts to surmise this? Or peer magically into crystal ball?
Oh, he just read his twitter feed and then parroted it? He is a genius! I wasn't sure about it before but now that deace is predicting it in between spoonfuls of ice cream, I am a believer!
Which is why I think we're going to get in if the Big 10 goes to 16. However, without Notre Dame agreeing to join, I just don't think they will do that.
That is, if the big 10 decides it wants to expand. Though its not whats best for our chances, normally id applaud a conference for not being a lemming on this whole 'race to 16' crap and sitting back and seeing how the format works out.
Supposedly the Big East was close to adding one more football school to get up to 10 full member teams, plus Army/Navy for FB only to get to 12 FB teams and enable you to have a championship game without diluting revenue for Basketball.
I agree ISU's chances to the Big 10 got better all of a sudden (but still slim) but does KU part ways with KSU in this? I find it very hard to believe KU will join the Big 10 without KSU even if KSU's academics suck.
They still need one more. Might end up being KU to preserve rivalry with Mizzou and entice the move.
I like how you guys are trying to argue for the logical nature of ISU to the Big16, but I really don't think the Big 10 is adding anybody until 2015/16. As somebody posted before, they claim they aren't expanding soon
Big Ten Commissioner Says No Change Is Imminent - NYTimes.com
And they're one of the few people I actually believe in this if they come out with a public statement. They don't really need to expand to 14 or 16.
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