*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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cyman05

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I cannot believe Colorado would allow this.

Yes...Colorado is going to be extremely upset. However, people seem to believe that all the other presidents will put enough pressure on them to force their vote.
 

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Yes...Colorado is going to be extremely upset. However, people seem to believe that all the other presidents will put enough pressure on them to force their vote.

Interesting that all it takes is one PAC12 president to end the game of musical chairs...

Colorado may be making a lot of noise but I'm wondering if the other conference members don't have some kind of leverage over them.
 

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Told #B1G making offer to #ND, allowing #Irish to keep NBC deal, but not partaking of conference network cash. Makes B10 net more valuable.

6 minutes ago via web
 

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Re: Report: TX & OU and the sisters are gone

Doesn't make sense. Why would OU allow Texas to keep it's LHN, but at the same time move out West. Couldn't they just keep the Big XII together with Texas and the LHN, and pick up a few Big East teams?
 

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Re: Report: TX & OU and the sisters are gone

Doesn't make sense. Why would OU allow Texas to keep it's LHN, but at the same time move out West. Couldn't they just keep the Big XII together with Texas and the LHN, and pick up a few Big East teams?

Unless OU gets tied into the LHN as a Pac 16 regional network - that would probably shut OU up pretty quickly.
 

CyFan61

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Bad news if the Big Ten is moving quickly. I'd much rather Mizzou was in the SEC and Rutgers in the ACC before they start moving.
 

CyFan61

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I haven't had the "Sky is falling, we are ****ed" attitude all along, but I think I might just have it now. We might be ****ed.
 

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I don't think we're going to see everyone go straight to 16. I think the PAC will go there first - within two weeks we'll see a PAC 16 including Texas, TTech, Oklahoma, & OSU.

The ACC will sit at 14. I think they've already lost all of their member institutions money by adding Syracuse & Pittsburgh - adding two more will only dilute the pot without adding anything (Uconn & Rutgers add nothing to the TV contract and the ACC doesn't get subscriber revenue like the Big Ten schools do).

SEC sits at 14 with TAMU & WVU.

Big Ten stands pat at 12 UNTIL ND becomes a realistic option (don't know when that will be). If the ACC & SEC go to 16, the Big Ten will add ND, but I'm not convinced the Big 10 goes to 16 until some ACC schools become available.

That leaves "The Best of the Rest" Conference. I think there will be a fifth BCS conference composed of schools who have enough political weight that they can't be left out. ISU will be a founding member of this conference.

That is how I think it will play out for at least 4 years or so. The Big Ten won't make a big move until the TV contract comes up for bid in 2015....once the Big Ten decides to make a move, dominoes will begin to fall again, but I don't think the Big Ten makes a move until ND wants to join.
 

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Re: Report: TX & OU and the sisters are gone

Unless OU gets tied into the LHN as a Pac 16 regional network - that would probably shut OU up pretty quickly.

It says UT would be able to keep any extra $$$$ they generate.....i.e. NOT SHARE. How is that evening the playing field for OU????

They can do that right here in the B12!!!!

Idiots...all of them!!!!! ARRGGHHHHH
 

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The Big Ten can offer ND all we want....we've offered them 3 times before and been turned down three times.

Nothing will change until ND is willing to accept....perhaps the disbanding of the Big East will be what tips the scales. Not having a prestigious home for non revenue sports is probably a big deal to some at ND.
 

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I don't think we're going to see everyone go straight to 16. I think the PAC will go there first - within two weeks we'll see a PAC 16 including Texas, TTech, Oklahoma, & OSU.

The ACC will sit at 14. I think they've already lost all of their member institutions money by adding Syracuse & Pittsburgh - adding two more will only dilute the pot without adding anything (Uconn & Rutgers add nothing to the TV contract and the ACC doesn't get subscriber revenue like the Big Ten schools do).

SEC sits at 14 with TAMU & WVU.

Big Ten stands pat at 12 UNTIL ND becomes a realistic option (don't know when that will be). If the ACC & SEC go to 16, the Big Ten will add ND, but I'm not convinced the Big 10 goes to 16 until some ACC schools become available.

That leaves "The Best of the Rest" Conference. I think there will be a fifth BCS conference composed of schools who have enough political weight that they can't be left out. ISU will be a founding member of this conference.

That is how I think it will play out for at least 4 years or so. The Big Ten won't make a big move until the TV contract comes up for bid in 2015....once the Big Ten decides to make a move, dominoes will begin to fall again, but I don't think the Big Ten makes a move until ND wants to join.

Can't say I disagree with any of this. We will still be in a conference that gets a BCS AQ. How good or stable that conference is another story.
 

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Re: TX & OU and the sisters are gone

They may have agreement. They may want to go BUT it will not happen. The legal system will not let it happen. Is A&M in the SEC yet? Is there an obvious and clear reason why?

I think the SEC will unconditionally accept ATM this week and announce a 14th. The boulder is rolling down hill on realignment and those hope it stops are going to be disappointed. I don't know where it is going to end: superconferences, capital hill, courts, etc. but change is upon us.
 

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Strange thing is, when ND wanted in, the B1G wasn't listening. Then we tried again, presumably on somewhat more mutual terms, and failed. Now it's the B1G wanting the ND, and ND's not wanting a part.

I think if ND becomes available, the B1G will offer to Mizzou and jump to 14. If the rest of the conferences are moving to 16, they may or may not add two more schools, depending on the ******* TV numbers...
 

edr247

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Also, with the Colorado thing. I get that everybody has equal voting rights...as far as we know...but at the same time, I can't see 'the new guys' having as much or more clout than the 'veterans'...at least not initially. But who knows?
 

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Re: Report: TX & OU and the sisters are gone

It says UT would be able to keep any extra $$$$ they generate.....i.e. NOT SHARE. How is that evening the playing field for OU????

They can do that right here in the B12!!!!

Idiots...all of them!!!!! ARRGGHHHHH

Perhaps it's all a big bluff or a diversion of some kind...but if UT and OU end up in the Pac-12, your last statement is right on. The stupidity would be rather mind boggling...
 
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