*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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oldwiseman

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You cant lose Nebraska,A&M & Colorado & be a relevant league

If things hold together now, Missouri will bounce whenever The Big Ten felt like offering

Texas was NEVER going to agree to a iron clad contract with severe penalities & OU wasn't going to agree if Texas wouldn't

BYU demanded to much

OU was not interested in expanding Eastward, into the rustbelt (Pitt),

You've been listening to the media in OK too much if you believe that the Big XII is all of a sudden irrelevant without aTm. All but KU and KSU received votes in the last rankings. The leagues supposed 3rd worst team, ISU just beat teams that made BCS bowls the last two years in Iowa and UCONN. aTm leaving is a blip on the radar and shouldn't destroy the Big XII. The league at it's current 9 + anyone is still VERY relevant!

We still have the #1 team in the country in football, and the biggest athletics budget in the country in UT. If OU leaves, we're still relevant!
 
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You cant lose Nebraska,A&M & Colorado & be a relevant league

If things hold together now, Missouri will bounce whenever The Big Ten felt like offering

Texas was NEVER going to agree to a iron clad contract with severe penalities & OU wasn't going to agree if Texas wouldn't

BYU demanded to much

OU was not interested in expanding Eastward, into the rustbelt (Pitt),


You are cutting off your nose to spite your face. How that cannot be seen is beyond me.
 
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If OU stays and forces Texas to play under the equal revenue sharing rules, which they can do if they want to, both OU and UT are in the same kind of shape financially speaking that they would be in the Pac, and they would have more power than they have in the Pac.

So, again, there really is no logic here.

Either way OU and UT are going to be subjected to equal revenue sharing. Why not do it on their own terms and rebuild their own league instead of being the new kids in the Pac, where their power and influence is watered down amongst 16 schools instead of 12?

Unfortunately this very simple concept is lost on the powers that be at OU. Maybe they forgot about that rape job that USC put on them in the BCS title game a few years ago. OU thinks this will open doors to recruiting in Cali.... yeah... How many 5 star athletes from Cali would prefer living in Norman vs. LA, Palo Alto, Tempe, etc....

OU has their heads up their collective *****.
 

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You've been listening to the media in OK too much if you believe that the Big XII is all of a sudden irrelevant without aTm. All but KU and KSU received votes in the last rankings. The leagues supposed 3rd worst team, ISU just beat teams that made BCS bowls the last two years in Iowa and UCONN. aTm leaving is a blip on the radar and shouldn't destroy the Big XII. The league at it's current 9 + anyone is still VERY relevant!

We still have the #1 team in the country in football, and the biggest athletics budget in the country in UT. If OU leaves, we're still relevant!
This. The conference would be stable if it wasn't for the entire south all of a sudden looking to bolt because they think it's more stable because everyone is saying how the Big 12 is dead. If they didn't listen to the media driving all this forward, the conference would be fine.
 

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If these schools go and TX ends up making massive concessions with the Longhorn Network, then it really comes down to the fact that they think the Faithful Five are worthless.
 

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Why does OU need Cali recruiting? They already pull top shelf guys out of Texas.

If these schools go and TX ends up making massive concessions with the Longhorn Network, then it really comes down to the fact that they think the Faithful Five are worthless.

Which is ridiculous when you look at the followings at schools like Arizona, Stanford, Washington State, Oregon State, etc.

Every single conference has bottom end teams. It's just a fact of life. The Pac's aren't any better than the Big 12's.
 

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A&M is now in the SEC, SEC is now in Texas in & out.. gaining west coast recruiting for OU is now important
 

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This. The conference would be stable if it wasn't for the entire south all of a sudden looking to bolt because they think it's more stable because everyone is saying how the Big 12 is dead. If they didn't listen to the media driving all this forward, the conference would be fine.
This how I felt about Nebraska. They said they left for stability. The conference was perfectly stable if you weren't leaving.
 

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You cant lose Nebraska,A&M & Colorado & be a relevant league

If things hold together now, Missouri will bounce whenever The Big Ten felt like offering

Texas was NEVER going to agree to a iron clad contract with severe penalities & OU wasn't going to agree if Texas wouldn't

BYU demanded to much

OU was not interested in expanding Eastward, into the rustbelt (Pitt),

OU is now making decisions based on the demands of a former Mountain West Conference school? If that is the case then most people are seriously giving far too much credit for OU and the power they hold. If BYU can "force" OU's hand then OU didn't have much of a hand from the start. :eek:
 

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Boomer, what does OU gain in the Pac?

Recruiting? You already pull top 5 recruiting classes with your Texas base.

Money? Big 12 contracts will be huge if you stay. You're already loaded.

Power? You'll lose some of your power.

Getting away from Texas? There's a solid chance they would follow.

Making Texas an equal? You can do that here.

I can't see a rational/logical reason for the move. I'm not saying this because I'm worried about ISU (I'm not at all), but I just don't see any logic.

This x100. It defies logic that OU wants to go to the PAC. I would add that if OU would stay in a recommitted Big 12, they would have just as much power as Texas AND they could have equal revenue sharing. Head out west and now you will likely be fighting against Texas, USC, Stanford, UCLA, and Cal with equal revenue sharing.

OU to the PAC makes no sense but they seem hell bent on leaving...
 
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