JoePa Fired/What is happening at Penn State?!?!
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Tell that to the 21 year old that was raped. He turned a blind eye to all of this. Hell Paterno even allowed him on campus AND allowed him to bring little boys to practice as late as 2007. Sorry but get Paterno out, he knew everything, I can about guarantee that.
Do you mean the coed in Iowa City and the Head Coach did not go to authorities right away as I remember when allegations were leveled. Maybe I am wrong on that but didn't Kirky go through the local chain of command and not the police.
Innocent until proven guilty. In my mind there are only two for-sure guilty people right now: Sandusky and the highest ranking official that knew about this and did not investigate or contact authorities. There are probably more people who are guilty, but we do not know that for sure. We do not know the extent to which other people were lied to. It is still possible (though admittedly unlikely) that Paterno was told there was an investigation and that Sandusky was cleared. I've got to have faith that if he was culpable in anyway it will come to light eventually, but until that time you've got to let the process work and you can't start punishing people for crimes that you can't prove they commited yet. Unless you are working for the state of Pennsylvania on this investigation and are breaking all sorts of laws by talking about it publicly, you cannot guarantee he knew anything. You think, you suspect, but you can't prove. None of us can. That is why he hasn't been fired yet.
Completely agree that the right thing for the GA to do was to call the cops or intervene.
But try to put yourself in his shoes for a minute. I can't speak for anyone else, but what he witnessed, something that horrific, is one of the LAST things I expect to see when I'm working. It's easy for me to say sitting at my computer that I would have tried to beat the guy up. But I have never seen a little boy being raped before; I'm sure I would have been in quite a bit of shock. I have to think this is what happened with the GA; he was so caught off guard and shocked he couldn't process what to do right away. Then he went home, collected himself and proceeded to report it. This is where JoePa and the other administrators come into play. The only thing I fault the GA for is not following up after the first time.
But try to put yourself in his shoes for a minute. I can't speak for anyone else, but what he witnessed, something that horrific, is one of the LAST things I expect to see when I'm working. It's easy for me to say sitting at my computer that I would have tried to beat the guy up. But I have never seen a little boy being raped before; I'm sure I would have been in quite a bit of shock. I have to think this is what happened with the GA; he was so caught off guard and shocked he couldn't process what to do right away. Then he went home, collected himself and proceeded to report it. This is where JoePa and the other administrators come into play. The only thing I fault the GA for is not following up after the first time.
Dude, just stop. Your making an fool of yourself. Paterno knew about the rape and not only did not report it to the police but kept the man on campus for years after the fact..because he knew how damaging it would all be if it got out. Joe Paterno is scum..pure and simple. Evil really.
If Larry Eustachy can be fired for drinking with college kids (ie. didn't do anything legally wrong), surely Penn State has grounds to fire or place Paterno on leave for severly botching child rape allegations, right?
I am a bit surprised. He's not a target of investigators after all. Innocent until proven guilty, right? What's JP got to worry about?
Yes, but it's not JP's job to investigate allegations. And why care when you can pass the buck. It's not Joe's fault that eight kids were raped. It's the rapists fault, right?
Honestly, I think it's coming in some way, shape, or form. But **** this whole thing became public what, 4 days ago? That's all I'm saying.
First of all, there is no way in hell I would just try and brush it off as no big deal and walk away. I would make sure what was happening was immediately stopped, and do whatever it took to make sure it was stopped. I would than do all that I could to make sure it never happened again. I could care less who the person was, or how powerful that person was. It could be the person I respect most in life. There is a very definitive line when it comes to this stuff, and its very obvious when that line has been crossed. No holds bared once it has been crossed.
I agree. I only try to speculate what might cross their mind at their times: at times people choose to do "what's best" instead of "what's right". We won't know what these people (GA, Janitor) thought: whether they were too upset, shocked, etc or whether they thought about different things that cloud their "right" with the "best"
I'm probably a pessimistic person, seeing so many wrong things in the society.
I believe this was in reference to the satterfield and everson rape incident. While I do not consider the crime to be in the same ballpark, the decision to keep the investigation 'in-house' is equally disturbing.
