I don't even...just...wow (celebration penalty nullifies state title)

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Yep. Both did something before they scored. Neither should have been called and both were. Wings action wasn't really that degrading either.

The LSU punter was taunting and looking at the Florida defenders. This wasn't even close to the case in the HS game.
 

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Yep. Both did something before they scored. Neither should have been called and both were. Wings action wasn't really that degrading either.
This:

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Compared to this?:

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I'm not sure I can take you seriously anymore.
 

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The LSU punter was taunting and looking at the Florida defenders. This wasn't even close to the case in the HS game.

Whatever. The rules there. If you do something before you score you are taking the chance. I said I don't agree with the rule and I said I don't agree with the call. I'm not defending the call, just saying that it doesn't happen if you don't do anything to warrant it.
 

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Any sort of celebration before crossing the goal line. That is basically the rule.

I don't like the rule and I don't think it should exist, but it does. I don't like hand checking called either but it exists.

Not at all true. You can either listen to Julie Foudy read the rule on the video with the article or read it from earlier in the thread. His action is not prohibited based on the rule. Period.
 
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Check out Scott Van Pelt's comments (podcast link) about half way down the page on the original link...spot on...
 

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Did you read my post at all or not?

I read the whole thing and never disputed that it is, factually, a rule.

A nancy rule for a nancy game.

The ref who called it and the accountant who wrote it ought to die horribly in a fire and their ashes dumped into a barrel of toxic waste.

Did you read mine?
 
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If it isn't taunting or obscene it shouldn't have been a flag. His celebration was aimed at himself and his team.
 

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Not at all true. You can either listen to Julie Foudy read the rule on the video with the article or read it from earlier in the thread. His action is not prohibited based on the rule. Period.

But if you do something you leave the possibility that the referee could make the wrong interpretation. If you interpretation is far off like it was in this instance, there is risk. That is the only thing I am saying. I understand this is a high school kid and I agree he was justified in simply raising a fist but I am just saying the rule exists and when you make any non football action these days, you leave open the possibility for the wrong interpretation to be made and you get flagged.
 

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But if you do something you leave the possibility that the referee could make the wrong interpretation. If you interpretation is far off like it was in this instance, there is risk. That is the only thing I am saying. I understand this is a high school kid and I agree he was justified in simply raising a fist but I am just saying the rule exists and when you make any non football action these days, you leave open the possibility for the wrong interpretation to be made and you get flagged.
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. So players should be careful doing things that aren't against the rules because an official might interpret the rule wrong?
 

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But if you do something you leave the possibility that the referee could make the wrong interpretation. If you interpretation is far off like it was in this instance, there is risk. That is the only thing I am saying. I understand this is a high school kid and I agree he was justified in simply raising a fist but I am just saying the rule exists and when you make any non football action these days, you leave open the possibility for the wrong interpretation to be made and you get flagged.

Your problem is when you find yourself in a hole you just keep digging...
 
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That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. So players should be careful doing things that aren't against the rules because an official might interpret the rule wrong?

Obviously, yes. The rules are different now. Again, I don't agree with it but that's the way it is.
 

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But if you do something you leave the possibility that the referee could make the wrong interpretation. If you interpretation is far off like it was in this instance, there is risk. That is the only thing I am saying. I understand this is a high school kid and I agree he was justified in simply raising a fist but I am just saying the rule exists and when you make any non football action these days, you leave open the possibility for the wrong interpretation to be made and you get flagged.

Exactly. The rules have become so nerdified that you can, accidentally in the course of normal play, have the entire outcome of the game decided in unnatural ways.

Touch a jersey? That's a horse collar. Defend a receiver? Interference! Thank the gods, your maker or the universe for getting to enjoy the game - uh-oh! That's a taunt. Don't lead with your shoulder, or maybe your head will touch an opponent during a tackle.

These idiot kids. Don't they know that in order to win this game they just need to remember to keep their hands to themselves, never get lost in the moment, and avoid contact at all costs?

He should never have done something so stupid and jeopardizing and hurtful as to lift his hand to the sky. I'm sure that illegal maneuver is what propelled him into the endzone.

Because rules are poorly followed, understood and executed, it is important that sports have as few as necessary to conduct the game.

This rule? It is obviously and practically one rule too many. Strike it out, give the kids their trophy, and fix it.
 

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But if you do something you leave the possibility that the referee could make the wrong interpretation. If you interpretation is far off like it was in this instance, there is risk. That is the only thing I am saying. I understand this is a high school kid and I agree he was justified in simply raising a fist but I am just saying the rule exists and when you make any non football action these days, you leave open the possibility for the wrong interpretation to be made and you get flagged.

That's ridiculous. It is the referee's responsibility to call the game correctly. The kid broke no rules, but it's now his responsibility predict a colossal **** up by the official and to act based on the incorrect interpretation? How does that make sense?
 

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To be safe, all further celebrations on the field should be done in the following fashion.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GOpxFAvLkw&feature=player_embedded]Aldon Smith Sack Celebration - YouTube[/ame]
 
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Wait, did I miss something or did that kid get excessive celebration for raising a fist into the air???
 

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