Could Iowa State be the next Boise St.??

[midwestcyfan]

I have been thinking about this for awhile now and wanted to get others reactions to it.
I remember several years back when Boise State and some other small school programs seemed to have the Thursday night espn football game every week. From that point on, a few of those teams really have bolstered their programs to a point where they are consistently in bowl games (Rutgers is another team that has benefited from this)
After the huge OSU upset on an espn friday night game and the bowl game video that features the cyclones quite a bit, could this mean the clones are on the same path? IT seems like the cyclones and CPR are espn media darlings right now and ISU needs to use this to their advantage while the fire is hot.

I would love to see the Clones take as many Thursday and Friday games as they can, and obviously they have to play well and win these games to really benefit from the exposure, but it seems like the perfect way to bolster a program.

Thoughts?

 

[Ace000087]

I have been thinking about this for awhile now and wanted to get others reactions to it.
I remember several years back when Boise State and some other small school programs seemed to have the Thursday night espn football game every week. From that point on, a few of those teams really have bolstered their programs to a point where they are consistently in bowl games (Rutgers is another team that has benefited from this)
After the huge OSU upset on an espn friday night game and the bowl game video that features the cyclones quite a bit, could this mean the clones are on the same path? IT seems like the cyclones and CPR are espn media darlings right now and ISU needs to use this to their advantage while the fire is hot.

I would love to see the Clones take as many Thursday and Friday games as they can, and obviously they have to play well and win these games to really benefit from the exposure, but it seems like the perfect way to bolster a program.

Thoughts?

No. Iowa State will never be in the WAC or the MWC or now the Big Weast. If anything, the OSU game proves that on any given week you can beat any one. In Boise's case, they only have to play their "A" game a few weekends a year, and they are masters of this. The only parallel I see with Boise (and the only time I will ever give them credit) is that their coaching staff (Peterson) is pretty solid and gets the most out of their players. I'd love to see ISU go 12-0, 11-1, or hell 9-3 again but its not easy and with our 10/11 game BCS slate there is little chance for error and they'd have to get a lot of breaks.

 

[RING4CY]

Iowa State is not a midmajor.

End of discussion.

 

[Alswelk]

Iowa State is not a midmajor.

End of discussion.

I would've said something along the lines of:

"Iowa State has admission standards.

End of discussion."

 

[cyfanatic]

Nope...based solely upon our schedule. We will never have a schedule like Boise State.

I am not a hater of Boise State either...

 

[LegendofRodA]

I have been thinking about this for awhile now and wanted to get others reactions to it.
I remember several years back when Boise State and some other small school programs seemed to have the Thursday night espn football game every week. From that point on, a few of those teams really have bolstered their programs to a point where they are consistently in bowl games (Rutgers is another team that has benefited from this)
After the huge OSU upset on an espn friday night game and the bowl game video that features the cyclones quite a bit, could this mean the clones are on the same path? IT seems like the cyclones and CPR are espn media darlings right now and ISU needs to use this to their advantage while the fire is hot.

I would love to see the Clones take as many Thursday and Friday games as they can, and obviously they have to play well and win these games to really benefit from the exposure, but it seems like the perfect way to bolster a program.

Thoughts?

 

[Clark]

Sure they can but they'd have to do these two things first:

A) Leave the Big 12. Boise St has the luxery of playing two or three tough games a year and then sleepwalking htrough the rest of it. ISU would never have that in the Big 12.

B) lower your academic standards considerably. When compared to Boise St, ISU is practically an Ivy League school.

Do these two things and you too could be like Boise State. Of course that means you're either in a BCS game or a low ranked bowl game with no in-between, you'll have far less revenue to distribute to your other sports, and it would take years of upsets to get any benefit of doubt from the rankers.

 

[Hawkeye11en1]

Sure they can but they'd have to do these two things first:

A) Leave the Big 12. Boise St has the luxery of playing two or three tough games a year and then sleepwalking htrough the rest of it. ISU would never have that in the Big 12.

B) lower your academic standards considerably. When compared to Boise St, ISU is practically an Ivy League school.

Do these two things and you too could be like Boise State. Of course that means you're either in a BCS game or a low ranked bowl game with no in-between, you'll have far less revenue to distribute to your other sports, and it would take years of upsets to get any benefit of doubt from the rankers.

See, I've seen this discussed and have had this discussion with friends of mine. I have yet to see a link or article that discusses their lower admission standards. I think they allowed partial qualifiers before they entered the Mountain West, but that changed when they left the WAC. I would love to see some facts about this because I need more ammunition for my idiotic Boise friend. :twitcy:

 

[dualthreat]

because they had a big win on a thursday night?

 

[Clonefan94]

I have been thinking about this for awhile now and wanted to get others reactions to it.
I remember several years back when Boise State and some other small school programs seemed to have the Thursday night espn football game every week. From that point on, a few of those teams really have bolstered their programs to a point where they are consistently in bowl games (Rutgers is another team that has benefited from this)
After the huge OSU upset on an espn friday night game and the bowl game video that features the cyclones quite a bit, could this mean the clones are on the same path? IT seems like the cyclones and CPR are espn media darlings right now and ISU needs to use this to their advantage while the fire is hot.

I would love to see the Clones take as many Thursday and Friday games as they can, and obviously they have to play well and win these games to really benefit from the exposure, but it seems like the perfect way to bolster a program.

Thoughts?

A couple a year is fine. Two at the most, imo. If you want to see ISU's attendance numbers drop, even though the team were to keep winning, have all their games on Thursday and Friday nights. It's terribly inconvenient and makes people who live out of state, who normall would have been at the game, not be there. Skipping out of work a little early once or twice a year is not big deal, to have to do it 6 or 7 times hurts the fanbase more than it helps, imo.


I missed the OK State game because of this. I'm glad it happened in a way. It was huge for ISU, but the fact that I wasn't there for that game, because I had to work, will never sit well with me.

 

[RING4CY]

I would've said something along the lines of:

"Iowa State has admission standards.

End of discussion."

Yeah, but when I learned that someone had been admitted to Iowa State, it made me question their admission standards.

 

[erikbj]

If ISU got rid of all academic standards, then maybe they can recruit the same players.

Also, BSU doesn't play the same schedule ISU does.......Boise would be a 7-8 win team in teh Big 12.

 

[cyfan15]

See, I've seen this discussed and have had this discussion with friends of mine. I have yet to see a link or article that discusses their lower admission standards. I think they allowed partial qualifiers before they entered the Mountain West, but that changed when they left the WAC. I would love to see some facts about this because I need more ammunition for my idiotic Boise friend. :twitcy:

Boise State hasn't allowed partial qualifiers for at least ten years. It is still not a great school academically, however.

 

[CyArob]

I think they've copied us the last couple of years with their missed field goals that would give them a chance at a BCS game. :twitcy:

 

[Hawkeye11en1]

Boise State hasn't allowed partial qualifiers for at least ten years. It is still not a great school academically, however.

Ah, alright. Was told it was when they left the WAC. Good to know.

 

[TRZA]

Gold Turf could be the one thing we have been waiting for to really put Iowa State at the next level of football dominance. Imagine if the win over Okie State had put an image of Golden Fieldturf in the ESPN highlight reels for the end of the year. It would be forever know as the Golden Turf Game. The combination of cold weather, a big scoreboard, and gold turf would inevitably lead to a 60 game home winning streak like what Boise had.

 

[BCClone]

Thursday and Friday games will kill attendance and JP doesn't want that. Now with equal revenue sharing, we dont need to take the hit in attendance to get on TV.

Lets see what TCU does in the Big XII the next year or two and that will give us a comparison to what Boise could do here. They only had one or two large games (maybe similar to a K state or baylor this year not a typical OU or UT) that they had to concern themselves with. Big Red used to use partials also and Dr. Tommy left when he could no longer use them and look at their drop off while in a major conference. BSU used partials to build up and then was able to spin them off and stay competitive in weak conferences.

 

[PabloDiablo]

Just looked Boise up a little on wiki, Forbes has them listed as the #614 college academically in the nation.

Are there even that many??

Current 4 year graduation rate is 6%, 6 year rate is 28%.

 

[BCClone]

Just looked Boise up a little on wiki, Forbes has them listed as the #614 college academically in the nation.

Are there even that many??

Current 4 year graduation rate is 6%, 6 year rate is 28%.

6% -- so that means they graduate about 1 a year. I think the tutors are spending too much time with that one kid.

 

[Mr Janny]

I think you guys are all taking his post too literally. I believe he's trying to make a broader comment than just ISU = BSU.

What I think he's saying is more comparing the potential status of Iowa State/CPR as media darlings to Boise State's rise to prominence during the Hawkins/Petersen era. CPR/ISU have been given some very favorable airtime (well earned, I might add) with CPR's locker room speeches and the Okie St. win. It's a huge boon to the program to have so much positive attention focused on it. At this point, very few people outside of Iowa City have many bad things to say about CPR, and ISU has got sort of a "little engine that could" glow about it, right now. America loves an underdog.

Similar vibe to when Boise State beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.

Obviously the attention has to be met with wins, or the spotlight will fade, and this is where Boise State has capitalized. It's an opportunity to be seized. If we can seize it, there's no reason ISU cannot vault itself to the next level. Not necessarily a title contender, but a program with consistent success, and some level of national recognition.

Considered in that light, the OP makes a good point.