*** THE OFFICIAL TEXAS TECH VS. ISU POSTGAME THREAD ***

ajk4st8

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This is the first year in a long long long long time that I am jacked up for the Big 12 tournament.
 

BBHMagic

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Call me crazy, but I don't see why we couldn't compete for a Big XII title. We are currently tied for third and we almost knocked off the two teams ahead of us. I think we can play with anyone in this league. Just keep winning and March will be a fantastic month.

You're not crazy but we only get Kansas one more time and they have a two game lead. I don't know how many more games they are going to lose either.
 

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Call me crazy, but I don't see why we couldn't compete for a Big XII title. We are currently tied for third and we almost knocked off the two teams ahead of us. I think we can play with anyone in this league. Just keep winning and March will be a fantastic month.

ease up on the kool aid, top 3 teams are pretty separated from the rest of the pack. I don't see us winning the regular season title, but if we made a tourney run,maybe...
 
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ease up on the kool aid, top 3 teams are pretty separated from the rest of the pack. I don't see us winning the regular season title, but if we made a tourney run,maybe...

I actually don't think the top three are that separated from the next three based on KState beating Missouri pretty soundly, our games against Kansas and Missouri, and the Texas/Kansas game today. While both Kansas and Missouri beat Baylor. Having said that I would be thrilled with a fourth place finish in the Big 12.

Edit: I obviously think those are the top three teams and probably will be at the end of the year, but KState, Texas, and ISU could beat any of them on any given night. Kansas, Baylor, and Missouri all have their weaknesses and are far from 'complete' teams.
 
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BigBake

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Conference games being more important does not mean those are not bad losses. When you are likely to be on the bubble, all losses have huge opportunity costs, especially losing to MVC teams. You have a much, much better chance to reach the tournament with a .500 conference record if you turn two losses to average MVC teams to wins.



Agree, but I feel we will be on the bubble at the end. When you are on the bubble, losses to UNi (at home) and Drake will be used against you

If we can finish 4th in the league I don't see us on the bubble.
 

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Losses early in the year are much more forgivable than bad losses late in the season. The committee realizes that and that is why it pays much more attention to what you accomplish late in the year. Besides, the bubble doesn't look overly strong this season and believe it or not our resume is probably one of the more attractive ones out there, as of now.
 

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Also, I'm 99% sure that if we go 10-8 in conference our RPI and power ratings will be good enough to get us in. 9-9 puts us squarely on the bubble. The bubble field just isn't that strong this year, and it's getting worse almost daily. Lunardi's latest "Last 4 In" field (from 6 days ago) had Memphis, Cincinnati, Northwestern, and BYU in it...and all four of those teams lost games this week that (other than Cincinnati, perhaps) were not good for their resumes. Hell, BYU lost to Loyola Marymount at home.

Not only that, but he had Texas in as a 10 seed previous to the games this week - and they just went 0-2 AND have a loss to us. We are arguably ahead of where all these teams are today.
 
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swarthmoreCY

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Also, I'm 99% sure that if we go 10-8 in conference our RPI and power ratings will be good enough to get us in. 9-9 puts us squarely on the bubble. The bubble field just isn't that strong this year, and it's getting worse almost daily. Lunardi's latest "Last 4 In" field (from 6 days ago) had Memphis, Cincinnati, Northwestern, and BYU in it...and all four of those teams lost games this week that (other than Cincinnati, perhaps) were severe blows to their resumes. Hell, BYU lost to Loyola Marymount at home.
Sounds good, hope this post is prophetic.
 

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Unless this team goes on a huge run, the last 3 games are what puts this team in or out of the tourny.
 

cyguytillidie

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*I see these games as toss up games.

We get at least 1 in the Big 12 Tourney and I think we're in.
 

kingcy

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21-10 (11-7)
*I see these games as toss up games.

We get at least 1 in the Big 12 Tourney and I think we're in.

I dont think this team can get in by losing the last 3 games.
 

chuckd4735

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I think ISU is going to have to win 11 games or more if it wants to get into the dance. ISU's RPI is bad, they have no quality wins outside of conference and only one "good" loss against Michigan, and while the Drake loss looks "better" than when it happened at the time, the UNI loss looks worse weekly. Our weak-arse nonconference schedule may end up costing a tournament appearance if ISU doesn't finish well above .500 in conference.

In the future ISU needs to up the ante for it's nonconference schedule.

ISU's RPI, last time I checked, was in the 50's. While not awesome, it most defiantly is not bad.
 

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I think the selection committee would take into account the schedule if they saw that three game losing streak. I really think Fred could pull out one of those games though.

Are all of you guys forgetting about the Big 12 tourney?
 

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Our RPI is not terrible, it is in the 50's and we have many many opportunities to make it better. Teams get in a lot with RPI's higher than that. Teams also get left out with RPI's in the 40's but not often.

Just have to take care of business at home, beat OU, OSU on the road and we will be fine.

We have a great great chance to get in. The non-conference schedule is a non issue if we win 11 Big 12 games. Clearly it wasn't that bad or our RPI would be worse.
From what I've heard and read from "the experts", a team's record over its final ten games has the most bearing on whether it goes dancing or not. Games in Nov. are discounted unless it was a win over a top ten team, or a loss against a bottom ten team. Neither UNI or Drake fall into those two categories and those losses won't count a whole lot against the Cyclones. At least not enough to counter the weight of playing in the Big 12 conference even in a down year. The win against Texas, IMO, counts more than the loss vs. Drake. If ISU doesn't make the NCAA tourney, it will be due to factors besides the UNI and Drake games.
 
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kingcy

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If we are 10-5 or 11-4 before we lose the final 3, we can and should absolutely get in.


They need to get more than one quality win. You cannot look at record alone. If they end the season at 10-8 in conference they would be the 5th place team in the conference, with one or no quality wins. There is also the chance they have a bad road loss. The Drake and UNI losses are going to haunt this team as well.
 

isuno1fan

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21-10 (11-7)
*I see these games as toss up games.

I will be VERY pleasantly surprised if we win the next 3 games. Heck...I'd be happy with 2-1.
I think we have a better shot to beat Baylor at home than KU IMO.

We get at least 1 in the Big 12 Tourney and I think we're in.