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Bigguns

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To all the people who aren't smart enough to respect JoePa or who lost respect for him due to the news that broke over the last few months, I hope you are put in the same position as him at some point in your life. He thought he knew Sandusky so well that he didn't believe the allegations could possibly be true, he did what he thought was right and was crucified for it in the end by some. What happened to JoePa could happen to anyone that allows them self to trust another person the way he must have trusted Sandusky and several others on his staff. Sandusky is the real criminal here and everyone else involved in some way or another are victims. I refuse to believe that JoePa believed the crimes were happening and allowed them to continue.

RIP Joe Paterno. You were a great coach and a great man!
 
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Bigguns said:
To all the people who aren't smart enough to respect JoePa or who lost respect for him due to the news that broke over the last few months, I hope you are put in the same position as him at some point in your life. He thought he knew Sandusky so well that he didn't believe the allegations could possibly be true, he did what he thought was right and was crucified for it in the end by some. What happened to JoePa could happen to anyone that allows them self to trust another person the way he must have trusted Sandusky and several others on his staff. Sandusky is the real criminal here and everyone else involved in some way or another are victims. I refuse to believe that JoePa believed the crimes were happening and allowed them to continue.

RIP Joe Paterno. You were a great coach and a great man!
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Bigguns said:
To all the people who aren't smart enough to respect JoePa or who lost respect for him due to the news that broke over the last few months, I hope you are put in the same position as him at some point in your life. He thought he knew Sandusky so well that he didn't believe the allegations could possibly be true, he did what he thought was right and was crucified for it in the end by some. What happened to JoePa could happen to anyone that allows them self to trust another person the way he must have trusted Sandusky and several others on his staff. Sandusky is the real criminal here and everyone else involved in some way or another are victims. I refuse to believe that JoePa believed the crimes were happening and allowed them to continue.

RIP Joe Paterno. You were a great coach and a great man!
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Nice post. I agree.

Listening to the interview Jo Pa did last week, this was an incident that was shocking for him and he thought he had done the right thing at the time.
 
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Bigguns said:
To all the people who aren't smart enough to respect JoePa or who lost respect for him due to the news that broke over the last few months, I hope you are put in the same position as him at some point in your life. He thought he knew Sandusky so well that he didn't believe the allegations could possibly be true, he did what he thought was right and was crucified for it in the end by some. What happened to JoePa could happen to anyone that allows them self to trust another person the way he must have trusted Sandusky and several others on his staff. Sandusky is the real criminal here and everyone else involved in some way or another are victims. I refuse to believe that JoePa believed the crimes were happening and allowed them to continue.

RIP Joe Paterno. You were a great coach and a great man!
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What? Anyone who knew about it and didn't call the cops is guilty. The only victims are the kids, not JoePa.
 
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Judoka said:
Also lets remember that when Joe's "superiors" came to his house to tell him he was fired a few years ago he told them no and kicked them out. Paterno wasn't some low level flunky. He had more power than any other person in Happy Valley.
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But yet when they DID fire him this time, they sent someone with a note to his house and made Joepa call this number on the note....At the other end of the phone were the two who told him he was done as the coach. Look it up
 
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marothisu said:
If reports kept coming to me about something this serious happening, and an investigation turned up nothing I would have absolutely gone to police instead as I knew the university was doing nothing about a serious matter.

However, we do need to consider one thing. Many people say "I would do this, I would do that" Well, unfortunately countless studies and experiments show that most people don't act with their best judgement at the time. If you ask someone what they'd do if they saw someone OD'ing on drugs on a sidewalk in public what they'd do, most of them say they'd do something about it. However, 90% of people would actually not do what they'd say. I'm not saying it's right, but I'm saying it's easy to pass judgement by sitting around on a computer without actually being in the situation yourself.
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I hope you could live with your idealistic stupid attitude just like Joepa. The people who should have done something wern't sitting around a computer but they certainly closed their eyes and ears like you have.
 
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Bigguns said:
To all the people who aren't smart enough to respect JoePa or who lost respect for him due to the news that broke over the last few months, I hope you are put in the same position as him at some point in your life. He thought he knew Sandusky so well that he didn't believe the allegations could possibly be true, he did what he thought was right and was crucified for it in the end by some. What happened to JoePa could happen to anyone that allows them self to trust another person the way he must have trusted Sandusky and several others on his staff. Sandusky is the real criminal here and everyone else involved in some way or another are victims. I refuse to believe that JoePa believed the crimes were happening and allowed them to continue.

RIP Joe Paterno. You were a great coach and a great man!
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Yeah, I'm a drooling '**** for not dropping to my knees to worship at the Altar of Paterno. Tell me this, Einstein: If Paterno "knew Sandusky so well and didn't believe the allegations could possibly be true", why did he promote the one person who was making those allegations to be his wide recievers coach? If I'm convinced that a person in my employment is squeaky clean, then I would fire anyone who is making false accusations against him, not promote him. But I guess that's just because I'm an idiot.

And as far as being put "in the same position as him at some point in (my) life"? God, I wish I could have a test that easy. Calling the police in a situation where YOU have all the power and respect and are not likely to lose it for any reason? Yep, that's a real test of character. God, who could possibly pass that test?

Joe Paterno was a great coach. I'll agree with that.

Great man? Not so much.
 
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I will hold judgement untill all the facts are revealed.

This is a sad ending to what I believed to be a Great career. I ask myself why Sandusky (the heir apparent) contract was not renewed after he was OC Coach of the year...? What did Joe know then..? Because there have been reports of misconduct, before this last one.

May he RIP, because now he will be judged by a greater authority then the press and public, but I will wait for all the facts....I do have questions.
 
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Per his own sworn testimony in 2002, Joe Paterno knew what was going on with Sandusky and the children, yet Sandusky was still allowed to be around the football program, its facilities and stadium for practices, games and bowls. Sandusky used these places to attract and attack children.

Joe Paterno decided to put the image of the university, the football program and himself ahead of those children. I can have sympathy for his death, and sympathize for his family members who lost a husband, father, etc. But for Joe Paterno as a person, I have a hard time finding any sympathetic feelings for.
 
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CYlent Bob

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coachdags said:
I will hold judgement untill all the facts are revealed.

This is a sad ending to what I believed to be a Great career. I ask myself why Sandusky (the heir apparent) contract was not renewed after he was OC Coach of the year...? What did Joe know then..? Because there have been reports of misconduct, before this last one.

May he RIP, because now he will be judged by a greater authority then the press and public, but I will wait for all the facts....I do have questions.
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As far as his being judged goes, I agree. He's gone to a court of higher authority. I'm just happy for the fact that he was a Christian and not a practicing Hindu.

Can you imagine a powerful football coach being reincarnated as a vulnerable 10-year old boy who finds himself alone in the showers with Jerry Sandusky? That would be a bit of a shock.
 
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ManofCyience said:
In my mind, nothing that has come out over the last few months can take away from Joe Paterno's legacy.
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If you think this, then you are one ****ed up individual.

This man kept a mother****ing child molester on his staff. He had been told about the incident and literally DID NOTHING TO STOP IT. He said he escalated it, **** THAT. You go to the police and YOU FIRE THE PIECE OF **** WHO DID THAT.

I can't believe people think of him as some god-damned saint. **** football, it's just a sport when you compare it to letting someone RUIN THE LIVES OF CHILDREN AND STAND IDLY BY.

Hopefully there is a special place in hell for him and all those who knew and did nothing.
 
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Wesley said:
Joepa did pass it on up the chain to the criminal people and they did nothing.
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Paterno spoke with a university bureaucrat who the campus police reported to for administrative matters. He did not speak to anyone in law enforcement until he was depositioned.
 
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P.S. for all of you who want to go into law about this, here you go. Here is the Pennsylvania State law regarding reporting alleged child abuse. As someone made the point, if JoePa was fired for this, then thousands of teachers every year in the State of Pennsylvania should be as well.

Section 6311 - Title 23 - DOMESTIC RELATIONS

(c) Staff members of institutions, etc.--Whenever a person is required to report under subsection (b) in the capacity as a member of the staff of a medical or other public or private institution, school, facility or agency, that person shall immediately notify the person in charge of the institution, school, facility or agency or the designated agent of the person in charge. Upon notification, the person in charge or the designated agent, if any, shall assume the responsibility and have the legal obligation to report or cause a report to be made in accordance with section 6313. This chapter does not require more than one report from any such institution, school, facility or agency.
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