I didn't say they did the same thing and understand one raped children and the other protected a child rapist.
Both actions made children less safe and the world is a better place because they assumed room temperature.
Joe Paterno (1926-2012)
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I didn't say they did the same thing and understand one raped children and the other protected a child rapist.
Both actions made children less safe and the world is a better place because they assumed room temperature.
Exactly. It is sad and pathetic when other people could have done stuff about it too. People in better positions, especially McQuery who apparently saw it happen and the President of the university who is in charge of everything in the university.
Every future mention of him will contain a sentence that goes something along these lines "Paterno's career as head coach ended as a result of a scandal involving former assistant Jerry Sandusky, who allegedly sexually assaulted young boys, including a 10-year-old in the locker-room shower" ....... just as it should!!! And that is his legacy.
The most powerfull man at State College did the bare minimum and that should be good enough? There are others to blame as well and if McQuery had died last night we'd be having the same discussion about him.
This is about JoPa right now.
This is about JoPa right now.
It's sad to see JoePa's legacy damaged the way it has been. I had hoped he would be vindicated before he passed away. He was a great coach and a good man. He'll be missed.
I realize that the guy could coach pretty well......BUT, he was apparently unable to realize that the proper response to a pedophile in your midst is to stop his predation NOT to tell him to "take it off campus". I've got a hard time celebrating a man who doesn't know that simple truth of life.
On the other hand, I'm not celebrating his death. Death is inevitable, and what matters is how you face it. Maybe it was punishment enough if JoePa went to his deathbed with the main thought in his mind being "Damn, I should have done more to stop Sandusky".
Matthew 18:6
"But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea."
On the other hand, I'm not celebrating his death. Death is inevitable, and what matters is how you face it. Maybe it was punishment enough if JoePa went to his deathbed with the main thought in his mind being "Damn, I should have done more to stop Sandusky".
Matthew 18:6
"But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened around his neck and to be drowned in the depth of the sea."
Completely agree, but IMO JoePa did way more about the situation than the AD and President.
I think JoePa should have met with McQuery after the investigation and told him "if you feel like you saw this 100%, go to the police."
There's only so much someone can do for you when the person reporting it never saw it happen. However, if you get someone to file a report who actually saw the crime, it means MUCH MUCH MUCH more.
I hear you, but when the person going to the police without witnessing the crime is the Undisputed God-King of State College, PA? I don't think the police would have just glossed it over as "some crazy guy telling stories". But, we'll never know because Joe Paterno never felt the need to bring the police into the situation.
Now that I've already quoted scripture, I'll follow it up with a quote from Stan Lee: "With great power comes great responsibility".
I agree, the only thing JoPa is guilty of is being a company man. He did as he was told from his superiors. It's easy for us to judge him when it wasn't our career, family and life at risk.
I don't believe JoePa knew the extent of what happened that day. He didn't hide it; he went to his superior and the campus police.
He went to the person who the police reported to through the university hierarchy. Not the police. There is a very big difference there. At no point did he talk to anyone in Law Enforcement about it.
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To those who follow the company line or chain of command:
One of the most noted uses of this plea, or "defense," was by the accused in the 1945–46 Nuremberg Trials, such that it is also called the "Nuremberg defense"...
It was during these trials, under the London Charter of the International Military Tribunal which set them up, that the defense of superior orders was no longer considered enough to escape punishment; but merely enough to lessen punishment.[4]
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I am not comparing the atrocity of these events, only the defense.
One of the most noted uses of this plea, or "defense," was by the accused in the 1945–46 Nuremberg Trials, such that it is also called the "Nuremberg defense"...
It was during these trials, under the London Charter of the International Military Tribunal which set them up, that the defense of superior orders was no longer considered enough to escape punishment; but merely enough to lessen punishment.[4]
Superior orders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I am not comparing the atrocity of these events, only the defense.
Except those were superior orders to commit a crime against humanity. Not superior orders on the process of reporting (ie: joe didnt commit a crime here).
In hindsight, could he have done more? Absolutely. Easy to judge someone in hindsight with the benefit of all the information gathered from a full investigation.
feel bad for his family. he is the only dad they had. not just his sons, but many of his players were talking earlier how they looked up to him as a father that they never had.
I know Cyclone fans are perfect, but let's remember that the rest of the world isn't. 
I'm sure knowing the full extent of what occurred that day, Joe Pa would have acted differently. But in a situation where he didn't know the whole story, he reported it to his superiors with the assumption that it would be handled appropriately.
I'm sure knowing the full extent of what occurred that day, Joe Pa would have acted differently. But in a situation where he didn't know the whole story, he reported it to his superiors with the assumption that it would be handled appropriately.
Then why was Sandusky still allowed in the PSU FB facilities AFTER Joe had testified before the Grand Jury?? He still did not error on the side of caution.I know Cyclone fans are perfect, but let's remember that the rest of the world isn't.
I'm sure knowing the full extent of what occurred that day, Joe Pa would have acted differently. But in a situation where he didn't know the whole story, he reported it to his superiors with the assumption that it would be handled appropriately.
