Yeah, some fans are still a little bitter about Chizik. But I don't know that it is cause to draw conclusions on the fanbase. Honestly, I think that he did some decent things at ISU. He brought in KO, LJ, Benton, Rump not to mention Hammer, Reeves, Money, Darks, Burris, Maggitt, Klein, Broomfield, Lenz. Not a bad group of recruits. I still think that he would have done OK if he would have hired decent coordinators the second time around. That said, the best thing that he did at ISU was leave, because we're in a much better place now than we would have been if he had turned Auburn down.
As for Mac, I think that he did a great job bringing ISU from terrible to average. The problem was that that was where he topped out. A change needed to be made and it was.
Actually, it was more the efforts of Gene Smith...But, that led to BVD after he spent a bunch of money that we didn't have, and, well, you know the rest....
I am just trying to keep the conversation lively, of course, but it is funny that mac is absolutely the embodiment of "super bowl" ********...Till his last breath as coach, he stuck with that theme. "Glad we could make the iowa game a rivalry again, Jon"
Now the funny part is that when hawk fans say these things to us, soooo many on here get all offended, and upset. They look for every possible slight coming from the hawk fans to be upset about.
BUT then they turn right around and have AA's sponser game watches for North Texas...That is exactly what JP has been fighting for the time that he has been here.
But, at least he understands it. Now we have a pretty small time mindset of course. But he does understand that all he really has to do or say something against the hawks. The idiots come out, and go all tavern on here, and then the horribly offended cough up more money to the AD.
But the folks that angrily deride the hawks, then can't help themselves, because they personalize the coach. There were, and still are, people that were bigger fans of mac than they were of Iowa State. How many times did you hear six years ago, we could never do better than mac...OR, my personal favorite, he was a "victim of his own success..."
You hear our AD, and coaches talk about changing the culture, this is what they mean...