Paul Shirley in the DMR about end of 2001 season
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If not drinking made me anything like you, I'd never put the bottle down.
haha guess I wasn't pay attention...just thought I would throw in my personal experience.
I didn't take this article as so much as a Paul Shirley sob-story, but as more of an acknowledgement of what makes a successful NCAA Tournament team. Shirley identified the aspects of the 2001 team that led to its collapse - lack of respect from the coach, selfishness and lack of cohesion from the players - and implied that this current squad has a vastly different makeup, due in large part to Hoiberg's presence.
I think Shirley's notion of fit is especially telling. Hoiberg fits this team. His passion for Iowa State, ability to analyze talent, and build chemistry out of an initially discordant team has brought them to the tournament. Shirley even implies that perhaps Southern Miss is a better fit for Eustachy. It's not a piece on failure from the past, but redemption for Iowa State and for Eustachy.
I think Shirley's notion of fit is especially telling. Hoiberg fits this team. His passion for Iowa State, ability to analyze talent, and build chemistry out of an initially discordant team has brought them to the tournament. Shirley even implies that perhaps Southern Miss is a better fit for Eustachy. It's not a piece on failure from the past, but redemption for Iowa State and for Eustachy.
I had to deal with LE on numerous occasions in my job. The guy was always a complete *******. I can not imagine what it would have been like seeing that guy every day for 6 months, and in a setting where he was your boss.
That said it is time for Paul to let it go. And for some of you to let go the love for LE and the hatred of anyone who has a negative story about the guy...
That said it is time for Paul to let it go. And for some of you to let go the love for LE and the hatred of anyone who has a negative story about the guy...
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This. He gives a lot of credit to Iowa State. In his book, he doesn't hate on Iowa State, the complaining is directed at his teammates for not caring about the team as a whole. I'm sure a lot of people on this board have co-workers, bosses, professors, members of group projects etc. that you don't like to work with.
I, for one, like the article; Shed's some light as to why that team flamed out at the end of the year.
That is very true. I don't understand why he brought this article out now. It definitely was all about him. He gave a few sentences of thought towards this year's team, and the rest was about how terrible his career was. He should blame himself partly for not stepping up as a senior.
This. My most vivid memory of PS, bawling like a little girl.
He wanted to win. Larry wanted to coach someone else. The end of that season still pisses me off. Larry wasn't ready for the big time.
I haven't read this entire thread yet, but I submit to everyone here that LE's disease was at its worst point right then and there.
It's been a long, hard road back for both he and ISU basketball. To paraphrase Clint Eastwood in Unforgiven, "Deserve's got nothin' to do with it." But both LE and ISU basketball both deserve something good to happen this weekend.
Not reading all posts, but don't take this as gospel. Paul is a cry baby and is full of it, and himself. He tries to tie it together in the end, but he is still just whining and crying (literally). Such a donkey.
Paul has been bitter in his post Iowa State career. He comes across as pretty mean.
That being said, anyone who watched him after that Hampton game, realizes that AT THAT TIME he did care that they lost. I don't doubt what he wrote. Hell, Larry has said this year that he didn't allow those teams to enjoy what they were doing and he regrets that.
Second, I thought the essay was kind of nice. He wished Larry well. And he had nice things to say about Iowa State and Hoiberg.
That being said, anyone who watched him after that Hampton game, realizes that AT THAT TIME he did care that they lost. I don't doubt what he wrote. Hell, Larry has said this year that he didn't allow those teams to enjoy what they were doing and he regrets that.
Second, I thought the essay was kind of nice. He wished Larry well. And he had nice things to say about Iowa State and Hoiberg.
I will add that I think LE and Paul need to sit down together and discuss this. It would be good for LE's continuing recovery, and Paul needs to consider forgiving him at this point.
Some of the LE haters could let it go too... notably Go2guy, who is bound to show up if you say Eustachy 3 times. LE wasn't perfect (in fact, he had plenty of issues, and he wouldnt disagree if you said so), but he also gave us 2 of the best years in Iowa State history.
Agreed Paul needs to let it go... seems once a year we get another column by him complaining about his experience here. We get it already. 10 years seems a bit long to hold a grudge.
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But JT is just taking up a nba roster space. D-Rose made him his ***** last weekend. I think in all this the one that goes down in my eyes is JT.
