Paul Shirley in the DMR about end of 2001 season

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i gotta say, there are few fan bases with thinner skin than cyclone fans.

if i spent five years at isu doing nothing but studying mechanical engineering, working out, and playing for LE, i'd have some strong opinions about ISU myself!
 
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i gotta say, there are few fan bases with thinner skin than cyclone fans.

if i spent five years at isu doing nothing but studying mechanical engineering, working out, and playing for LE, i'd have some strong opinions about ISU myself!
Exactly what I was thinking. I enjoy how many people here are saying Paul is sensitive for still being upset about being involved in one of the most historic college basketball games ever, then we complain about how this is published the night before a game. Who gives a **** if its the night before a game? It will not make any difference in how our team plays and is more of a positive article than anything else.
Also enjoy reading the guys who compare what Eustachy said to something a high school coach said.
 

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You could tell at the end of that season that the team was spent both physically & mentally. Losing in the 1st round of the Big 12 tourney to Baylor should have let us known what was a precursor to come...a short stay in the NCAA tourney.

You could see in their faces at the Big 12 tournament basketball wasn't fun anymore.
 
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Shirley doesn't hate ISU...

Agreed. I've never seen him bad mouth the school or fans. He just has some anger towards Eustachy and Tinsley, and I can't really blame him.

He should forgive and forget, but his feelings are understandable. I'm definitely not in the "Paul Shirley's a ****" camp.
 
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I am with some of you that Shirley is living up to his name as girley shirley. Maybe LE was trying to motivate them or it was because he is a drunk. I remember that shot by Tinsley and remember the Nebraska game where the wheel fell off. And I remember losing to Baylor in the BIG 12 tourney. We were there. And I remember all of the wins ISU picked up on account of those guys. Good luck to LE. He was and is a helluva coach. And, LE, Shirley and all of his teammates gave us some great basketball.
 
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Boo freakin' hoooo. PS is a little *****. We all know it, just no one can say it. It's big time D1 basketball. Boot camp? You had a full ride to a D1 school. Tell my buddies parents who died in the war that you were in boot camp. What a ******* little *****.
 

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I didn't take this article as so much as a Paul Shirley sob-story, but as more of an acknowledgement of what makes a successful NCAA Tournament team. Shirley identified the aspects of the 2001 team that led to its collapse - lack of respect from the coach, selfishness and lack of cohesion from the players - and implied that this current squad has a vastly different makeup, due in large part to Hoiberg's presence.

I think Shirley's notion of fit is especially telling. Hoiberg fits this team. His passion for Iowa State, ability to analyze talent, and build chemistry out of an initially discordant team has brought them to the tournament. Shirley even implies that perhaps Southern Miss is a better fit for Eustachy. It's not a piece on failure from the past, but redemption for Iowa State and for Eustachy.

That's pretty much what I got out of that. Sounded to me like he's saying you need to be a team and not a collection of individuals to make a run in the tournament and that last year they were anything but.
 

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I don't know, that isn't that bad, it's a motivational situation fueled by probably what is frustration on the coaches part. The LE case seems a little different to me. When things deteriorate over the course of a season and the night before the biggest game of the season your coach says, “I’m sick of coaching all of you. I can’t wait for this to be over.â€￾ In a hotel room, outside of practice, that can really be demoralizing. It's almost like seeing your coach at Target with his family one night and he tells you how much you suck.

Shirley should have thicker skin, but as others have said, LE was clearly a train wreck waiting to happen.

That analogy makes no sense whatsoever.
 

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Is Paul Shirley a dsm register contributor now? Does he have an independent blog and why didn't the register post a link?

Why is his perspective of value at this moment?



Wonder if it got printed in the Hattiesburg, Mississippi paper?

Edited to report that I didn't find it on the Hattiesburg American website.
 
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It'd be good to see LE and Shirley get back together and put this behind them. Hopefully LE's learned from that mistake.
 

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It'd be good to see LE and Shirley get back together and put this behind them. Hopefully LE's learned from that mistake.


I see this as using the DMR to take a slap at LE that he could deny was a slap.
 

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Interesting but Shirley's and the Register's timing both suck,

I guess I don't see it as a negative to ISU. We lost that game and this is a good reminder of the importance of a good mental state you need to have to win NCAA games.
 

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Interesting but Shirley's and the Register's timing both suck,

agreed- it's a timing thing.

This belongs in paul shirly's personal blog or maybe even a post on cyfanatic but not in the dmr sports section. If register feels the need post his views, it belongs in the opinion section or in a greater article about LE.
 

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You seem to get easily offended when someone has a negative opinion of the Register...

Because normally its pretty rediculous.

Ok... But what do you think about the register rolling out a paul shirley piece on the eve of isu's first round game?

Should a accredited paper like the register post the "boob blooger's" views?

I think it's pretty dumb and I don't really see what the context is or why it has anything to do with what's going on. Seems like Shirley wants some spotlight but not sure why they wasted the space to do it.
 

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Why is this spelled wrong EVERYWHERE on the internet?
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I Blame Duke....:jimlad: