CBS: Royce to NBA

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If he gave half the effort of Gibson, Royce would have been MVP of Big 12.
Wish him luck, has a lot to learn about life.
If this isn't a reason to bring back neg rep, I don't know what is.
 

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I am going to get smoked for this, but I think he is making a huge mistake. I feel that Royce is exactly the kind of player that could come back and use that to move up in the draft. Players that come back and help themselves are typically the guys who have talent but need to refine some of their skills, exactly like Royce. I think if he came back, he could move up from top 20 to top 10, which would mean millions of more dollars for him over the next 5 years. Not only that, but he would spend a year being the darling of college basketball, which would be huge in building his brand (the Tebow effect), rather than being just another rookie in the NBA. That again could be worth millions to him in the future.

That being said, if his family is hurting financially and he doesn't want to see that anymore, I completely understand. If that isn't the case though, I really think he should come back.
He followed Fred's advice ......... I can support that.
 

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And then second-rounders get less than that, and it's not guaranteed. I'm just concerned that foreign players will bump him out of the late first and into the early second round. He was projected late first, with no overseas players projected, in the mock I saw where he was in the first round. Just seems pretty shaky if that's truly the case. But perhaps he's got more concrete evidence that says he will be a first rounder.

I think he may actually move up once he starts interviewing and after he goes through some tests to show he has his anxiety under control, honestly I think that is the only thing keeping his stock down at this point.
 

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I don't think there's any question his stock is as high as it will ever be right now, but I'm not sure how they can project him into the first round yet.....there's all kinds of time for alot of people to declare. Who knows, guys like Sullinger have yet to declare which could push him out of the first round. I can't believe he isn't going to wait and see who all declares, and then collect the information on if he's still a first round pick.
 

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I don't think there's any question his stock is as high as it will ever be right now, but I'm not sure how they can project him into the first round yet.....there's all kinds of time for alot of people to declare. Who knows, guys like Sullinger have yet to declare which could push him out of the first round. I can't believe he isn't going to wait and see who all declares, and then collect the information on if he's still a first round pick.

WTF, u are like the 50th person on here ive seen that thinks royce's stock cant go higher. Are you serious with that BS? GTFO!
 

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Lazy Basketball player!
If he gave half the effort of Gibson, Royce would have been MVP of Big 12.
Wish him luck, has a lot to learn about life.

Oh dear lord... you are either a hawk or just plain idiotic... but then again..what's the difference?
And what does he have to learn about life?

And another thing... what the hell is up witu your name... theone1 makes no sense... either use the spelling of 1 or the number version... idiot
 

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WTF, u are like the 50th person on here ive seen that thinks royce's stock cant go higher. Are you serious with that BS? GTFO!

I don't think he said it couldn't go higher persay.. I think he was merely mentioning it could drop with other big men declaring. Which is totally true. A lot of things can happen from now until April 16th or whatever the NCAA cutoff is.
 

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I am going to get smoked for this, but I think he is making a huge mistake. I feel that Royce is exactly the kind of player that could come back and use that to move up in the draft. Players that come back and help themselves are typically the guys who have talent but need to refine some of their skills, exactly like Royce. I think if he came back, he could move up from top 20 to top 10, which would mean millions of more dollars for him over the next 5 years. Not only that, but he would spend a year being the darling of college basketball, which would be huge in building his brand (the Tebow effect), rather than being just another rookie in the NBA. That again could be worth millions to him in the future.

That being said, if his family is hurting financially and he doesn't want to see that anymore, I completely understand. If that isn't the case though, I really think he should come back.

I'm right here with you. I guess if he leaves, Fred recommended he leave and Fred would know more about it than I do, but I just don't think he is ready. With his tweener size, his questionable jumper, poor free throw shooting, and maybe some questions about the anxiety thing, I think there are far too many questions out there to say he is a 1st round lock. He has a lot of areas that need to develop yet, and I think college is a better place to develop than the end of the bench in the NBA (or worse, the DLeague or Europe). I have seen too many Cyclones leave school early only to have things not play out very well for them at the next level. I would hate to see the same happen to Royce.

If he could stay another year and improve on those things, he would be a star in the college game and get a ton of exposure, likely be a lottery pick next year, and be totally set financially even if things didn't work out well in the NBA (though I think they would be more likely to work out in this scenario).

I wish Royce the best whatever he does, but in my own non-expert opinion I don't think this is going to play out that well.
 

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WTF, u are like the 50th person on here ive seen that thinks royce's stock cant go higher. Are you serious with that BS? GTFO!
You have to think a little outside the box to understand.....yes his skills can improve in the next year, but if he waits these things will work against him.

1. Next year he will be a year older, and the same age as a 4 year college graduate.
2. Our team will be different, with an actual point guard so he may not get the same attention for being the point forward of our team.
 
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I disagree. The post I first responded to was pointing out how recruiting one and done players was working so well for KU, Kentcuky, etc.

I never said that anyone said ISU would be better next year. I said that it will not to show that losing a one and done player for a program like ISU can be a detriment as much as it can be a positive. Personally, I think losing Royce at this point is going to be a bigger detriment to the ISU program than it will be a benefit in terms of recruiting.

I disagree with you about your view of college basketball. When first taking over a stagnant or failing program, coaches absolutely have to consider how to build for 3 years down the road, especially at the start. They are trying to build a successful program, and unless you are Calipari and use his methods, you are not going to do it overnight. You are going to build it always looking to the future. FH has tried to jump-start the process a bit with the transfers. Whether or not that is ultimately successful is still unknown. He is trying to be successful more quickly to attract better recruits and get ISU back on the map. Once you are successful, then the one and done thing is not so disruptive.

The only change that FH has made is in taking so many transfers at one time. Now, I'm sure that if the right transfer players become available in future years, FH will take a look at them and even bring some into the program, as most programs do. However, we also have to realize that he is going back to the "traditional" (I guess to you stuck in the 90's) method of recruiting high school or prep school students to build the program.

You completely windmilled reading comprehension in school, didn't you?
 
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Lazy Basketball player! If he gave half the effort of Gibson, Royce would have been MVP of Big 12.Wish him luck, has a lot to learn about life.
Oh dear lord... you are either a hawk or just plain idiotic... but then again..what's the difference? And what does he have to learn about life? And another thing... what the hell is up witu your name... theone1 makes no sense... either use the spelling of 1 or the number version... idiot


I work near Ames with the public... and you would be shocked how many fans think this.