CBS: Royce to NBA

[VeloClone]

The money is ALWAYS going to be there. If he stayed one more year.......It'd still be there. Stayed even two more years......It'd still be there. I'm just being a selfish Cyclone fan.

So many things wrong...don't know where to begin.

**** it, I'm not going to even try.

 

[GMackey32]

The money is ALWAYS going to be there. If he stayed one more year.......It'd still be there. Stayed even two more years......It'd still be there. I'm just being a selfish Cyclone fan.

Money is never guaranteed. He could blow his knee out next year and never be able to play again. You're right, you are being selfish.

 

[snowcraig2.0]

I am going to get smoked for this, but I think he is making a huge mistake. I feel that Royce is exactly the kind of player that could come back and use that to move up in the draft. Players that come back and help themselves are typically the guys who have talent but need to refine some of their skills, exactly like Royce. I think if he came back, he could move up from top 20 to top 10, which would mean millions of more dollars for him over the next 5 years. Not only that, but he would spend a year being the darling of college basketball, which would be huge in building his brand (the Tebow effect), rather than being just another rookie in the NBA. That again could be worth millions to him in the future.

That being said, if his family is hurting financially and he doesn't want to see that anymore, I completely understand. If that isn't the case though, I really think he should come back.

 

[Clones21]

yes you are

And I don't care. I wish Royce the best, but for once in my life I'm taking Marty Tirrels side with this. Mistake.

 

[VeloClone]

And I don't care. I wish Royce the best, but for once in my life I'm taking Marty Tirrels side with this. Mistake.

And that works out so well for Marty. Good choice.:skeptical:

 

[Jammin’]

All the Best Royce!

 

[Clones21]

And that works out so well for Marty. Good choice.:skeptical:

I feel like he had a valid point.

 

[Cy$]

Also, I think it's a big mistake on his part. Yeah the money is there, but stay one more year and you're a Top 10 pick. Late first round at this point for this years draft.

I agree with parts of this..if I was Royce I would stay one more year, however I don't have a family to support, which ultimately is why I think hes pulling the trigger to sign an agent so quick

 

[zwclones51]

I am going to get smoked for this, but I think he is making a huge mistake. I feel that Royce is exactly the kind of player that could come back and use that to move up in the draft. Players that come back and help themselves are typically the guys who have talent but need to refine some of their skills, exactly like Royce. I think if he came back, he could move up from top 20 to top 10, which would mean millions of more dollars for him over the next 5 years. Not only that, but he would spend a year being the darling of college basketball, which would be huge in building his brand (the Tebow effect), rather than being just another rookie in the NBA. That again could be worth millions to him in the future. That being said, if his family is hurting financially and he doesn't want to see that anymore, I completely understand. If that isn't the case though, I really think he should come back.

+1

 

[Dryburn]

This post is just filled with straw men.

One, no one claimed that building a roster of ALL one and dones is a good recruiting strategy. Two, no one claimed that we will be better next year without Royce. Three, you can't compare how KU and UK built their programs in the past to how ISU should build their program now because, AS YOU SAID, those type of conditions do not exist any more.

Your point that having a one-and-done player go to the pros being as much of a detriment as a positive is just completely off. Having a player who is good enough to go the pros after one year of college ball is never a bad thing. Sorry, but it's not. College basketball is all about what have you done lately, not what are you building for 3 years down the road. Your mindset is stuck in the 90's and Freddy is looking at making the best team in the '10's.

I disagree. The post I first responded to was pointing out how recruiting one and done players was working so well for KU, Kentcuky, etc.

I never said that anyone said ISU would be better next year. I said that it will not to show that losing a one and done player for a program like ISU can be a detriment as much as it can be a positive. Personally, I think losing Royce at this point is going to be a bigger detriment to the ISU program than it will be a benefit in terms of recruiting.

I disagree with you about your view of college basketball. When first taking over a stagnant or failing program, coaches absolutely have to consider how to build for 3 years down the road, especially at the start. They are trying to build a successful program, and unless you are Calipari and use his methods, you are not going to do it overnight. You are going to build it always looking to the future. FH has tried to jump-start the process a bit with the transfers. Whether or not that is ultimately successful is still unknown. He is trying to be successful more quickly to attract better recruits and get ISU back on the map. Once you are successful, then the one and done thing is not so disruptive.

The only change that FH has made is in taking so many transfers at one time. Now, I'm sure that if the right transfer players become available in future years, FH will take a look at them and even bring some into the program, as most programs do. However, we also have to realize that he is going back to the "traditional" (I guess to you stuck in the 90's) method of recruiting high school or prep school students to build the program.

 

[dunar]

Is it 2:30 yet??? I just want the announcement to be over (either way.)

 

[Wesley]

Are we really going to be as good without him? Losing the leading rebounder, scorer, assists, etc guy along with Allen and Christopherson launching three balls, I just don't see it. That's a big production loss.

But alas, this thread is for Royce. I congratulate him on the accomplishment. Just a little worried about making NCAAs next year now.

Yep, will the sportswriters have us tagged for 8th next year?

 

[cyclones500]

I am going to get smoked for this, but I think he is making a huge mistake. I feel that Royce is exactly the kind of player that could come back and use that to move up in the draft. Players that come back and help themselves are typically the guys who have talent but need to refine some of their skills, exactly like Royce. I think if he came back, he could move up from top 20 to top 10, which would mean millions of more dollars for him over the next 5 years. Not only that, but he would spend a year being the darling of college basketball, which would be huge in building his brand (the Tebow effect), rather than being just another rookie in the NBA. That again could be worth millions to him in the future.

That being said, if his family is hurting financially and he doesn't want to see that anymore, I completely understand. If that isn't the case though, I really think he should come back.

I'm sure it could be a mistake, but staying another year could be a mistake, too.

Taking immediate $ out of the equation, staying another year realistically seems like a better move (his game could be further refined, his stock may rise with more attention brought by team success), BUT I also assume the choice to move up was made with extreme care. FH said they'd discuss it after the season, and apparently there was reason to believe his draft potential was good enough to make the jump now vs. waiting a year.

 

[Gnomeborg]

looks like I'm about to get a brand new favorite NBA team.

I've been waiting to care about a team again since Fred retired.

 

[Ames]

I am going to get smoked for this, but I think he is making a huge mistake. I feel that Royce is exactly the kind of player that could come back and use that to move up in the draft. Players that come back and help themselves are typically the guys who have talent but need to refine some of their skills, exactly like Royce. I think if he came back, he could move up from top 20 to top 10, which would mean millions of more dollars for him over the next 5 years. Not only that, but he would spend a year being the darling of college basketball, which would be huge in building his brand (the Tebow effect), rather than being just another rookie in the NBA. That again could be worth millions to him in the future.

That being said, if his family is hurting financially and he doesn't want to see that anymore, I completely understand. If that isn't the case though, I really think he should come back.

I agree 100% with this. But Royce also said he would do whatever Fred recommended. I'm going to assume Fred knows something I don't; he definitely knows more about what the NBA wants.

 

[NickTheGreat]

If it's true, I'll be sad personally, but understand he's making a decision for his family and wish him the best of luck.

THIS :sad: :smile:

 

[cyclonepower]

sad that some people wont take off the cardinal and gold colored glasses. Sorry to break it to some of you, but his dream is to play in the NBA, not at Iowa State, also he has a family that is not well off to provide for...kudos to Royce!

 

[TheOne1]

Lazy Basketball player!
If he gave half the effort of Gibson, Royce would have been MVP of Big 12.
Wish him luck, has a lot to learn about life.

 

[Spam]

Lazy Basketball player!
If he gave half the effort of Gibson, Royce would have been MVP of Big 12.
Wish him luck, has a lot to learn about life.

Here come the hawks

 

[Gnomeborg]

Lazy Basketball player!
If he gave half the effort of Gibson, Royce would have been MVP of Big 12.
Wish him luck, has a lot to learn about life.