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The USDA should do a better job of it so, yea it is.

Educating people about agriculture is nowhere in the USDA's mission. Though they receive some guidance form state boards of education, school curricula are developed locally by school districts. Even in this minimalist structure that provides tremendous autonomy to individual schools, people gripe about the "government having too much control over education"; convincing people that the government should do more to educate people about agriculture (and getting them to pay for it with increased taxes) would be one hard sell.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Educating people about agriculture is nowhere in the USDA's mission. Though they receive some guidance form state boards of education, school curricula are developed locally by school districts. Even in this minimalist structure that provides tremendous autonomy to individual schools, people gripe about the "government having too much control over education"; convincing people that the government should do more to educate people about agriculture (and getting them to pay for it with increased taxes) would be one hard sell.

He's not talking about school kids, he is talking about the general public. Educating people about what is safe or not. Using science based facts and not spewing emotionally driven rhetoric. Whacks are very vocal and don't care if they actually harm more than they help.

The government puts labels on cigs and sued tobacco companies and in the process helped to educate the public that smoking is bad. Is this only something that can be taught in schools?
 
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He's not talking about school kids, he is talking about the general public. Educating people about what is safe or not. Using science based facts and not spewing emotionally driven rhetoric. Whacks are very vocal and don't care if they actually harm more than they help.

The government puts labels on cigs and sued tobacco companies and in the process helped to educate the public that smoking is bad. Is this only something that can be taught in schools?

I see, thanks for clarifying.

Regarding your last question, no, it's not only something that can be taught in schools...but I'd argue that's a pretty effective place to do it. Governments don't just put labels on tobacco; they fund D.A.R.E., provide access to counselors and treatment, and do various other educational activities to let kids know the ill effects of drugs and alcohol. It's not coincidental that drug and alcohol use among kids has gone down, a lot, since these programs started.
 

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Not only that, but the USDA is very close to have mandantory testing on all types of E-Coli on ground product. Not only the E-coli O157:H7, the type that can kill you, but all types even if they aren't lethal. Big beef companies have fought this change off for a while, but it has now been passed. As soon as the USDA figures out how to test for all of these..............

Well, most companies are not even going to bother trying to produce ground beef anymore, making there less supply, and the few that do will have added cost of testing.

I would bet within a couple of years, ground beef will be as expensive as a t-bone

I'll take that bet.
 

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D.A.R.E.? I'm pretty sure thats just an over-time program for lazy donut eaters.

I'm not joking.

I see, thanks for clarifying.

Regarding your last question, no, it's not only something that can be taught in schools...but I'd argue that's a pretty effective place to do it. Governments don't just put labels on tobacco; they fund D.A.R.E., provide access to counselors and treatment, and do various other educational activities to let kids know the ill effects of drugs and alcohol. It's not coincidental that drug and alcohol use among kids has gone down, a lot, since these programs started.
 

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I see, thanks for clarifying.

Regarding your last question, no, it's not only something that can be taught in schools...but I'd argue that's a pretty effective place to do it. Governments don't just put labels on tobacco; they fund D.A.R.E., provide access to counselors and treatment, and do various other educational activities to let kids know the ill effects of drugs and alcohol. It's not coincidental that drug and alcohol use among kids has gone down, a lot, since these programs started.


I agree. I meant that it doesn't have to be a school course, it can be a presentation, educational materials and etc. I was trying to make a point without getting a political angle going. You detailed the youth education better than me. There are also things that can be done for the general adult public also.
 

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That dude did not get enough attention as a small child.

Personally, I'd like to thank BPI for removing the sinew and killing pathogens before they send it into the food chain.

This guy needs to take a freshman level chemistry class and learn that there are many types of products that are classified as ammonia. First he claims they are using "Mr Clean" and then later says they "nuke it with anhydrous ammonia".
By using those terms he is most certainly a pathogen expert.

Stay narcissistic my friend.
 
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That dude did not get enough attention as a small child.

Personally, I'd like to thank BPI for removing the sinew and killing pathogens before they send it into the food chain.

This guy needs to take a freshman level chemistry class and learn that there are many types of products that are classified as ammonia. First he claims they are using "Mr Clean" and then later says they "nuke it with anhydrous ammonia".
By using those terms he is most certainly a pathogen expert.

Stay narcissistic my friend.
can you imagine being that mad???
 

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Its definiteley safe, so no worries on that front. Appetizing? Not so much. But that's industrial food processing, there are lots of disgusting things that go into the processing of all types of food. Personally I prefer to buy higher grade beef or get it from the farmers market or butcher if possible, not because of safety, just because I'd rather eat a fresher hunk of meat with less chemicals applied.
 

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I'll take that bet.

It might not get quite to that extreme, but do you realize that probably half of the ground beef raised in North America will have E-coli of some sort at the raw stage.

This ground beef will then have to be cooked and not be on the market as raw ground. So there is going to be a much lower supply and a much higher demand.

People just need to not be stupid and cook their effen burger.