Blog: How will the JuCo's affect next season?

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Bubu was 5 - 11 for .45 from 3P last year. He's 0-1 this year.
Total, he was 20 of 44, for .45 from the floor last year. He's 4 of 8 this year.

last year, 32 Assts to 23 TOs. Not great, but definitely not as bad as people seem to think. This year, he has 11 Assts to 5 TOs.

He shot 59 FTs last year. This year, and he's 14 of 16 right now. Playing WAY more minutes this year (than Palo did last year), Lucious has only attempted 46 FTs.

As usual, the perception of Palo is distorted. He's not all-conference, but he's not bad either.
Great points. Bubu does not mess up our offense. He maintains good spacing and does a decent job (better than some starters) at facilitating open, in rhythm shots on offense. It is not as if teams are using Bubu's defender to bog down our offense.
 

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Bubu was 5 - 11 for .45 from 3P last year. He's 0-1 this year.
Total, he was 20 of 44, for .45 from the floor last year. He's 4 of 8 this year.

last year, 32 Assts to 23 TOs. Not great, but definitely not as bad as people seem to think. This year, he has 11 Assts to 5 TOs.

He shot 59 FTs last year. This year, and he's 14 of 16 right now. Playing WAY more minutes this year (than Palo did last year), Lucious has only attempted 46 FTs.

As usual, the perception of Palo is distorted. He's not all-conference, but he's not bad either.

His three point shooting percentage is obviously distorted by the fact that he only takes low pressure, wide open threes with nobody closing. Otherwise he won't shoot.
 

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Agreed, he doesn't shoot because he knows he has great shooters around him. He does what a PG is supposed to do, facilitate. He is great at drawing fouls and creating open looks. I can't figure out for the life of me why people keep ragging on the kid. If Monte or Naz can earn the starting nod at pg next season, great but I will be happy with Bubu as well.
 

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Bubu was 5 - 11 for .45 from 3P last year. He's 0-1 this year.
Total, he was 20 of 44, for .45 from the floor last year. He's 4 of 8 this year.

last year, 32 Assts to 23 TOs. Not great, but definitely not as bad as people seem to think. This year, he has 11 Assts to 5 TOs.

He shot 59 FTs last year. This year, and he's 14 of 16 right now. Playing WAY more minutes this year (than Palo did last year), Lucious has only attempted 46 FTs.

As usual, the perception of Palo is distorted. He's not all-conference, but he's not bad either.


That is great and all but he is still an offensive liability. You can just "see it".

The only thing that is being distorted is using his handful of shots and trying to extrapolate them into a season.
 

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So SDW is expected to be good even though he wasn't ready his freshman year, but the same can't be said for Naz? It's not his fault Bubu got in trouble and he couldn't redshirt.
 

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Who said its his fault? Just use your head, Bubu sat out half the season, and with less then a month of practice, was still deemed a better option to play. What makes you think that concept will change? I am not saying Naz can't earn that spot, just saying anyone with common sense would assume Bubu will play before him at point until proven otherwise
 

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So SDW is expected to be good even though he wasn't ready his freshman year, but the same can't be said for Naz? It's not his fault Bubu got in trouble and he couldn't redshirt.

I think this is a good point, had Bubu not had his issues I think either Naz or KO would have redshirted. Naz would've been the best option seeing that would make 4 guards in next years class. I know KO is a guard too, but he's more that 2/3 combo like Babb. Idk what to think of the guards next year, its tough to think that they will be good enough to start next year when they couldn't get minutes this year even when Tyrus was the only guard coming off the bench. But the reality is, 5 guys have start, Ejim and Niang are the only guys who have proven they should start. I'd be okay with Bubu starting based on just having a true pass first PG out there, but if any of the young guys earn it over him, I'd be comfortable with that. My biggest issue with freshman(and Jucos) is playing defense. At the very least Bubu brings that. The good thing is, the big 12 could potentially lose a lot of good players this year (hopefully Okie State loses their studs early). There will be a lot of young teams next year.
 

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Yet is a far better interpolation than your "you can just see it".

I guess if you need to cling to those 10 shots, so be it. Yet, it has to drive you crazy to watch a sharpshooter like Bubu pass up all the open 3's he does. Heck, you are probably terribly upset he doesn't play more!!! How in the world does coach not play what you would believe to be one of the best 3 point shooters in the entire country!!!!

Or you could be realistic, watch the game, and realize Bubu isn't an offensive threat, at all.

Now I didn't say he should't play, remember that, but the idea of using his 10 shots as evidence is hokum.
 

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Great points. Bubu does not mess up our offense. He maintains good spacing and does a decent job (better than some starters) at facilitating open, in rhythm shots on offense. It is not as if teams are using Bubu's defender to bog down our offense.
Bubu needs to take more threes like KL.
 

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I think its pretty clear Bubu is not a threat to shoot the ball and its pretty clear Fred's offense works best with more shooters on the floor. I'm not sure why this is even a point of contention.
 

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I think its pretty clear Bubu is not a threat to shoot the ball and its pretty clear Fred's offense works best with more shooters on the floor. I'm not sure why this is even a point of contention.

The point is not that "Bubu is a good 3 pt shooter". (I'm not sure how it evolved to that, although he's certainly capable). The point is that "Bubu is better than many seem to give credit for."
 

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The point is not that "Bubu is a good 3 pt shooter". (I'm not sure how it evolved to that, although he's certainly capable). The point is that "Bubu is better than many seem to give credit for."

And I agree with that point. Bubu is a better player than he gets credit for. If he's gonna play 20-25 minutes a game next year, though, he will most definitely need to become a much better shooter this offseason.
 

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If Bubu starts next year, I don't think it will be because Fred thinks he's better than Monte. It will be because Fred doesn't think Monte is ready. Just like Fred didn't think Niang was ready at the beginning of the year. I would not be surprised if Monte is starting in Hawaii.
 

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Don't be shocked if Bubu make some strides in shooting confidence by next year. That seems to be a trait of Hoiberg's backcourt players.

He's not a bad shooter but by next ear I could see him taking a few more shots.
 

Cincyclone

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If Bubu starts next year, I don't think it will be because Fred thinks he's better than Monte. It will be because Fred doesn't think Monte is ready. Just like Fred didn't think Niang was ready at the beginning of the year. I would not be surprised if Monte is starting in Hawaii.

Agreed.
 

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Most of your top tier college coach's stay away from the JUCO's because they don't know to get them transitioned quick enough to play a more disciplined game. Fred is able to do this with players. He saw so many players in the NBA come and go I think he learned from so many coaches how get the most out of your players, and you know Fred came across allot of rebels and outlaws in the NBA, not saying your JUCO's are outlaws and rebels (we'll maybe a little) !
 

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Most of your top tier college coach's stay away from the JUCO's because they don't know to get them transitioned quick enough to play a more disciplined game. Fred is able to do this with players. He saw so many players in the NBA come and go I think he learned from so many coaches how get the most out of your players, and you know Fred came across allot of rebels and outlaws in the NBA, not saying your JUCO's are outlaws and rebels (we'll maybe a little) !
That is why we struggle out of conference. Team needs to gel and become more diciplined.