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VeloClone

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That along with putting our undersized bigs in foul trouble pretty much every game.

How many times in those games did our undersized bigs give up ill advised fouls 90 to 30 feet away from the basket that contributed to that foul trouble? I can remember quite a few.
 

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How many times in those games did our undersized bigs give up ill advised fouls 90 to 30 feet away from the basket that contributed to that foul trouble? I can remember quite a few.

This is also true. I wonder how much of that could be contributed to mental that they were forced to play more physical underneath and it branched out to them playing too physical away from the hoop. Just a thought.
 

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Yes we have 3 scholarship for the class of 2013. Clay Custer has already filled 1 of the 3. So we have 2 more to fulfill. If Amardi gets granted a 6th year of eligibility he might also fill another 1 of the 3, which would leave us with 1 remaining scholarship to fulfill for the 2014 class.

Here are Rosters and Depth charts IMO for the next two seasons:


Hmm....I think you've got a couple typos on your dates above (I assume you meant 2014, not 2013), but it's much easier to see here: Recruit Lists » Scholarship Breakdown

2 spots open for 2014 as of now. LOTS of room for 2015.
 

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While I agree that most bigs didn't beat us, our lack of size caused us to pull a guard down to help. Also, you can't count on having an Ejim sized guy who can do what he does.

I wouldn't be surprised to see no true center, but a couple athletic power forwards who can hold their own and run the floor, along with some size in the guard court to help on the boards.
 

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We just need one athletic/tough big man who is 6'9" and we would be significantly better defensively.

We don't have to have multiple 7-footers on the roster like some teams but when we find one legit post player, the matchup combos will increase and our ability to win with defense will expand
 

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We did not have any bigs per se, but we did had a 6'5 guard that weighed 230 and a 6'7 long athletic wing that somewhat compensated for lack of size in the post. When looking at 2014, we don't have the big guard, and we do not have the long athletic wing. We have Hogue, but he is not as long as Clyburn. Size could be a serious problem in 2014. Actually 2013 too if Armandi is not a serviceable big in the 12 or if Gibson doesn't get it together.
 

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We did not have any bigs per se, but we did had a 6'5 guard that weighed 230 and a 6'7 long athletic wing that somewhat compensated for lack of size in the post. When looking at 2014, we don't have the big guard, and we do not have the long athletic wing. We have Hogue, but he is not as long as Clyburn. Size could be a serious problem in 2014. Actually 2013 too if Armandi is not a serviceable big in the 12 or if Gibson doesn't get it together.
Completely agree.
That's why I was saying Hogue HAS to start or we will get crushed on rebounds and defense due to lack of size.
 

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Completely agree.
That's why I was saying Hogue HAS to start or we will get crushed on rebounds and defense due to lack of size.

Size doesn't determine how good a rebounder is. It certainly helps but Ejim was a beast throughout the big 12 season and he's listed at 6'6". Rebounding requires getting positioning more than just being tall at this level I would say.
 

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Completely agree.
That's why I was saying Hogue HAS to start or we will get crushed on rebounds and defense due to lack of size.
Imo, if Hogue plays more than 10 minutes a game we are in trouble. I expect to see more of Ejim, Geroges, and Amardi on the floor at the same time than Hogue at the three.
 

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Size doesn't determine how good a rebounder is. It certainly helps but Ejim was a beast throughout the big 12 season and he's listed at 6'6". Rebounding requires getting positioning more than just being tall at this level I would say.

When will you people realize Ejim is an exception to the rule, not a standard. We were fortune to have great undersized rebounders such as Anderson & Ejim, but to expect a team with Niang (Small Vertical), Ejim, 6'4" SDW, 6'4" Thomas & 6'1" Morris/Bubu to out rebound anyone is insane. As another poster pointed out, we have guards and wings with good size to counter some of the rebounding struggles we would have due to smaller bigs this season and many conference games, we still got dominated on offensive boards.
 

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Imo, if Hogue plays more than 10 minutes a game we are in trouble. I expect to see more of Ejim, Geroges, and Amardi on the floor at the same time than Hogue at the three.

Based on what? Hogue is the 2nd or 3rd best player on his Juco team. Hogue will log 25+ minutes every game due to his rebounding, defense & driving ability. He may not be a lights out shooter, but if we can't penetrate on offense, out perimeter game is useless.
 

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Based on what? Hogue is the 2nd or 3rd best player on his Juco team. Hogue will log 25+ minutes every game due to his rebounding, defense & driving ability. He may not be a lights out shooter, but if we can't penetrate on offense, out perimeter game is useless.
Based on tapes of his IHCC games, he is like Babb, except with less size, handle, shooting, defense, and effort. He does have a better vertical.
If our perimeter game is useless without penetration, why would you expect someone like Hogue to play much?
Expect a lot of three guard line-ups. Better +/-.

As for your concerns with big man, the defense and rebound problems were more team and guard caused than due to Ejim and Georges giving up a few inches.
 

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Based on tapes of his IHCC games, he is like Babb, except with less size, handle, shooting, defense, and effort. He does have a better vertical.
If our perimeter game is useless without penetration, why would you expect someone like Hogue to play much?
Expect a lot of three guard line-ups. Better +/-.

As for your concerns with big man, the defense and rebound problems were more team and guard caused than due to Ejim and Georges giving up a few inches.

First of all, he is an inch taller than Babb.
Babb doesn't have a good handle at all so I disagree there. I felt Babb's dribbling skills were his worst trait.
Babb probably is a better shooter and defender though I think Hogue will still be a better defender than anyone else we have minus Ejim. And effort is hard to guage at this point. Juco world is a different animal.
 

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I wouldn't rule out Hogue starting at the 3, or even SDW... but I also wouldn't rule out Gibson or Amardi at the 5 then Ejim at 3. This lineup can go several different ways, and Fred will put his best guys out there regardless of size.
 

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I wouldn't rule out Hogue starting at the 3, or even SDW... but I also wouldn't rule out Gibson or Amardi at the 5 then Ejim at 3. This lineup can go several different ways, and Fred will put his best guys out there regardless of size.

In a perfect world, Armadi or Percy would be improve enough to earn the start at 5 with Ejim and Niang at the 3-4. Would limit out perimeter offense a bit but creates more opportunities inside. I am just not counting on it.
 

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If Ejim continues his improved shooting, I think he can play at the three and still play inside on defense.

When you have a genius coach, the number designation for positions have little meaning.
 

Cydkar

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Imo, if Hogue plays more than 10 minutes a game we are in trouble. I expect to see more of Ejim, Geroges, and Amardi on the floor at the same time than Hogue at the three.
Or he's damn good and he plays more.