Well, the jokes on him because I'm guessing those schools saw this for the petty bull crap that it is. Besides, I'm guessing the security will be extremely tight for the next couple of years.
Iowa football contacts ISU's Big 12 opponents about lax security at JTS
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The recipients of the calls probably laughed at the immaturity of the Iowa Athletic Department and finished what they were working on.
"Well thanks for giving us the heads up, wait who was this again?" - Texas Athletic Department
Now who's bias? Honestly, I would be 100% Embarrassed if anyone from ISU contacted other schools warning them of security for an issue like this. It was a mistake, things happen and there still is no proof who did it. Meaning an UofI staffer could be as guilty as anyone else at the stadium that day. It was an unprofessional move by Iowa to allow this guy to do what he did. Iowa State is handling the matter.
Should this have happened? No.
Is there proof yet it was ISU's fault? No.
If it was ISU's fault are they taking the necessary steps to make sure it doesn't happen again? Sounds like it.
Because ISU is taking steps to improve security, is there a good reason to call other schools coming to Ames and tell them how ****** the school is? No.
I wonder what the inside story is? He didn't just call the other schools because he's a Hok. Something set those wheels in motion. Too bad no one here has any inside info on what went down. Then we could move away from blind speculation and into the realm of fact-based opinions.
Petty, immature, adolescent...the list of words to describe Federici's actions could go on.
Despite that, I still find this incident embarrassing and inexcusable. Hawks or not, they were our guests. What happened was bush league and unless it is determined someone from the U of I contingent is responsible we deserve every bit of ridicule we get from it.
Despite that, I still find this incident embarrassing and inexcusable. Hawks or not, they were our guests. What happened was bush league and unless it is determined someone from the U of I contingent is responsible we deserve every bit of ridicule we get from it.
We should have sent AA and bail bondsmen business cards to all UofI recruits then. Seems along the same lines - just a chance to bring up an "oops" one more time in the press. UofI didn't do this to actually help anyone - just a publicity stunt to make ISU look bad.
Tldr.
I think this is a great move by Iowa. Can you imagine the responses this piker got? I would bet eight stolen iPhone and $80 of cash he got
1-"cool story brah."
2-Snyder asked what an iPhone was.
3-OSU asked are you a man? I'm 40!
4-Texas: seems like somebody left their pride in that locker room and cy stole that also son. This is ******* texas don't call here again.
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This whole argument about "Well, what if the roles were reversed blah blah blah..." is a fallacy because the roles are NOT reversed, and this actually happened. No use acting like there wasn't a theft; however, to take it to the level of publically tattling to our future opponents is underhanded and excessive. ISU came out and accepted that something happened under their watch, and as a fan, I am sorry that it happened, but I have little sympathy for fans whining about it. It's an internal situation...don't put business in the street.
TL;DR: No use defending immaturity just because you assume the other guy would do the same thing to you. Accept responsibility when you fudge up, and don't undercut someone else's attempt when they make the effort, whether you accept it or not.
To quote Mr. Garvey, Federici was being "Insubordinate -- and churlish."
TL;DR: No use defending immaturity just because you assume the other guy would do the same thing to you. Accept responsibility when you fudge up, and don't undercut someone else's attempt when they make the effort, whether you accept it or not.
To quote Mr. Garvey, Federici was being "Insubordinate -- and churlish."
Yes, we all know Kirkwood is U of I's stomping grounds...no need to explain that to us.
Did they issue a statement warning everyone to look after their credit cards when some hawk football players stole those? They can suck my phat, cardinal ****.
The hoks are taking a play out of the old Raisin Face playbook. Proclaim to the press about how mistreated they were at rival's stadium, and then warn future opponents of how terrible conditions are there. Happened several times after they played at Camp Randall and elsewhere.
First, you can say all you want that you would be embarrassed if your school did this to another school, but until you're put in that situation you have no idea. If ISU did this to Iowa in particular I have a strong feeling many of you would think it is funny. Again, no one will admit that but it's true.
Am I proud that the U of I called these other schools to warn them about the lack of security at ISU? No I'm not proud of it. Am I embarrassed? No, I'm not embarrassed in the least bit. In fact, I think it's kinda funny, but that's only because it's ISU. If it was a non-rival school I would think less of it. The U of I almost NEVER goes out of their way to jab ISU like Pollard occasionally does to Iowa so in this case I'm glad they finally pushed back a little.
Second, you make the comment that "mistakes happen". It was just a mistake... Well it's a pretty freaking ridiculous mistake to have over $2,000 worth of stuff stolen from the visitors locker room at the D1 level of football. This is a major stadium with two major Universities involved. It's not like their team bus was parked out in the parking lot and stuff got jacked from it. The fact ISU failed to have the proper security in place to prevent something like this is the only thing out of all of this nonsense that can be considered unprofessional. Plus, if Iowa State failed to maintain adequate security during the Iowa game then why is it so unfair for the University of Iowa to give a shout out to other schools who will be visiting Jack Trice simply to warn them that this took place? Is it not possible that the perp could be a member of the very security team that was in charge of keeping people out of the locker room? Is it not possible that the perp could be someone who has access? No one has been detained so if those things are possible then it's also possible this perp could still be within reach of the visitors locker room!
OK...this is a contradiction...why would you or anyone else (including U of I) label it in those terms until we DO know who is responsible? Bottom line: Federici and Iowa think we can't handle security (and dismiss our increased measures to this), and want to slander ISU in our own conference. It's pathetic.
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I am really not surprised at all that the folks at EIU decided to take this course of action. This is a straight PR move to paint ISU in a negative light and why wouldn't they try it? Remember folks... Iowa has been involved in PR nightmare after PR nightmare after PR nightmare for years now. If it isn't players raping other students, players assaulting other players, players assaulting cab drivers, members of the coaching staff putting players in the hospital, members of the athletic department and university administration attempting to cover up sexual assaults, internal investigations, having to bring in an outside agency to perform internal investigations because the university led internal investigations were a sham, fans committing adultery in public restrooms, etc.... This was their first and most likely last opportunity to put ISU in a negative PR situation.
I say... Congrats to EIU and well played. ISU was put in a negative light for a few days and most people have already forgotten about this entire thing because in the grand scheme of things... it was an insignificant event. What people haven't forgotten after several years have gone by are the much darker and troubling events that EIU has been involved with over the years. People won't forget about the exploits of hok pioneers in crime such as Pierre Pierce, Cedric Everson, Abe Satterfield, etc.... Their legends will live on in infamy forever.
I say... Congrats to EIU and well played. ISU was put in a negative light for a few days and most people have already forgotten about this entire thing because in the grand scheme of things... it was an insignificant event. What people haven't forgotten after several years have gone by are the much darker and troubling events that EIU has been involved with over the years. People won't forget about the exploits of hok pioneers in crime such as Pierre Pierce, Cedric Everson, Abe Satterfield, etc.... Their legends will live on in infamy forever.
I hope nothing ever bad happens with the CSC at Kinnick then...
One game something happened. Was it inexcusable? Yes. But ISU's fault in this isn't at big as many, especially hawks are trying to pull. ISU had it's belief in CSC's staff doing their job, they failed. And ISU are addressing the issue with cameras/more security staffing.
So your feeble attempts at trying to make ISU look worse are laughable at best.
