Pollard On Student Section

jabalke

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If you can't go to the game, don't buy tickets. If you've already bought tickets and you can't go, give/sell them to someone who can.

It's not rocket surgery.

It's my prerogative to do what I want with my paid-for tickets. If I can't go, it's not my duty to shove them on someone else. If Pollard doesn't like it, he doesn't have to overall the student section because it clearly didn't work.
 

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I get your point and I don't disagree with most of it, but it's just dumb to use Kansas as a measuring stick for Iowa State. No, our students will not behave like yours right now. If we win the next 9 conference championships in a row, with some Final Fours added in, then our students would.This is like complaining about KU student turnout at football games and then pointing to Alabama as an example that they should measure up to.
Does ISU want what Kansas has? If so, then use them as the measuring stick. Confidence always comes before a good reason to be confident. Kansas students were standing in line for hours long before Self began his run at Kansas.
 

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It's my prerogative to do what I want with my paid-for tickets. If I can't go, it's not my duty to shove them on someone else. If Pollard doesn't like it, he doesn't have to overall the student section because it clearly didn't work.
Just be careful what you wish for or ISU students will see their alloted ticket numbers get cut. It is Pollard's prerogative to make that number of tickets available to students. If they continue to go unused he will just make them available to people who will A) pay MUCH MORE for them and B) actually use them.
 

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It's my prerogative to do what I want with my paid-for tickets. If I can't go, it's not my duty to shove them on someone else. If Pollard doesn't like it, he doesn't have to overall the student section because it clearly didn't work.

This attitude is why they oversell student tickets.
 

twocoach

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See my post above. I really think assigned zone seating is the way to go for the student section. I'm sure it would have it's own issues, but it sure seems like it would solve a lot of the current headaches.
It would be a nightmare to organize, track and implement such a system. If you have 400 seats in the "best" level and 600 students that have all been to the same number of games you run the risk of alienating even more fans. And how do you know which of the students in the line have the most games attended? You could have kids at the back of the line who have attended the most games. Yuck. that would be a disaster.
 

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I'm not going to speak for everybody, but there were major events on campus that day as well, and it's getting close to exam times. Sorry to our AD for doing the whole college thing. Anyone who spent gobs of money to go to the college isn't going to be guilt tripped by the athletic director or other fans for not going to the game.
What are these exam things you speak of? And other events? Wow, college has sure changed.

Just because they are bad excuses to us doesn't mean they are bad excuses to others. As much as I'd like every fan to literally bleed cardinal and gold blood it isn't going to happen.
Yeah, that is the point. Too many of the students who are buying tickets are not good fans.
 

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There is no real excuse other than some students buy tickets because they can or they do it to fit in every once in awhile. But the students on here go to all their games.
 

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It's my prerogative to do what I want with my paid-for tickets. If I can't go, it's not my duty to shove them on someone else. If Pollard doesn't like it, he doesn't have to overall the student section because it clearly didn't work.

That's an interesting choice of how to describe it. I guess I thought that getting a ticket this year was tough for most people, so it would almost be the opposite of "shove." ISU has a good product on the floor.
 

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It's my prerogative to do what I want with my paid-for tickets. If I can't go, it's not my duty to shove them on someone else. If Pollard doesn't like it, he doesn't have to overall the student section because it clearly didn't work.

Well let's suppose he does "overall" the student section and reduce your tickets, raise the prices, or go to a lottery system. I'm sure your fellow students who actually use their tickets right now will be very thankful that folks like you ushered in such a better deal for them.
 

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We used to have assigned seats back in the 80s. 4 different ones, and you would rotate around for them. Students were spread among the crowd.

I assume they don't do that anymore to maximize donations for the season tickets, and allow for those holders to have better tickets.
 
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CyFan61

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Does ISU want what Kansas has? If so, then use them as the measuring stick. Confidence always comes before a good reason to be confident. Kansas students were standing in line for hours long before Self began his run at Kansas.

Again, the bolded is not remotely comparable, and if you cannot see why, then this conversation is a lost cause. It's fine to say "We want our turnout/atmosphere to become elite like KU" and I have no problem with that, but it is ridiculous to say "Our turnout/atmosphere is not elite like KU and that is a problem."
 

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There is no real excuse other than some students buy tickets because they can or they do it to fit in every once in awhile. But the students on here go to all their games.

This is also true. Some students are OK paying $125 to go to 4-5 games a year.
 

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Everyone here wants ISU to become a national relevant program. All the BS you listed are just exceuses why that won't happen. It is absurd that ISU students don't support their team at this critical juncture in the programs history. You don't think ISU recruits read these types of stories? Both ISU and Okie State have had to have their AD or coach pleading for students to xcome to games in the last week. That doesn't exactly scream "our fans love our team." Don't turn into Mizzou and only fill the arena when Kansas comes to town. People may think it's not a big deal to just eat their tickets if they can't make a game but it adds up. Every ticket holder should have a list of people who would be willing and happy to use their ticket if they are not able to. My family was not able to use their tickets to the ISU @ Kansas game last week and it took us about five seconds to find some KU fans to buy those tickets from us.

As someone else said, you and Duke can go jerk each other off in the corner about how great your students are. No one else in the country gets that kind of unwaivering support no matter who the opponent happens to be, it's called "what happens when you've won for what seems like forever."

As for your story about finding willing buyers for your tickets, you're comparing apples to oranges. Selling a pair or even 4 tickets to the general public is a little different than a student trying to get rid of a single general admission seat. Now this doesn't make up for the fact that the students need to get to games, just making a couple points.
 

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Did anyone see the attendance at the Okie State game yesterday?? That was a huge game in a tiny stadium and I could argue it was around half full. Hilton is the only place for College basketball. CPH and Jamie have re ignited the fire in Hilton. The only place that can even touch Hilton with attendance would be Kansas. Iowa State had one game where students didn't pack it but there was still more students than many places could dream of
 

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Did anyone see the attendance at the Okie State game yesterday?? That was a huge game in a tiny stadium and I could argue it was around half full. Hilton is the only place for College basketball. CPH and Jamie have re ignited the fire in Hilton. The only place that can even touch Hilton with attendance would be Kansas. Iowa State had one game where students didn't pack it but there was still more students than many places could dream of

You are talking about Big 12 only right? Because we were 22nd last year in average attendance.
 

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I'd just like to get this off my chest. I was wrong for giving the students a pass for the K-State game because of dance marathon. I thought Pollard was out of line for calling the students out that day, which by the way has significant student athlete participation if I recall correctly.

After the Oklahoma game I agree with him. I was wrong to have sided for the students who I thought must have had a good reason for missing a top 25 match up on a Saturday. That was a sad showing.
 

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