*** OFFICIAL VEISHEA WEEK 2014 THREAD ***
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I am not saying they should be suspended but an athletic team isnt a court of law. If a coach wants to suspend a player for being in the wrong place at the wrong time they can do that.
I feel for you. First year my son is 21 for VEISHEA, so I have been worried this year. He texted me that he was safely at home when he heard about the riots knowing what I am like. Thankful for the massive group engineering project he was working on.
FYI. For those of you who think you "have a right" to stand there and watch and therefore are not complicit in a riot, I direct you to Iowa Code 723.3.
https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool...llinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=723#723.3
And it may be worthy to note the part of 723.1 that states "A person who willingly joins in or remains a part of a riot, knowing or having reasonable grounds to believe that it is such, commits an aggravated misdemeanor".
https://coolice.legis.iowa.gov/Cool...llinfo&service=IowaCode&ga=83&input=723#723.3
And it may be worthy to note the part of 723.1 that states "A person who willingly joins in or remains a part of a riot, knowing or having reasonable grounds to believe that it is such, commits an aggravated misdemeanor".
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I don't disagree with a word you say. I just don't think it would be in the best interest of our coaches to suspend players for just "being there" without any proof of wrongdoing or lawbreaking. I would never want to be a coach that did that to my players and I would never want to play for a coach who suspended me just for "being in the wrong place at the wrong time."
Not saying it is right, but there are times where student athletes are guilty of breaking the law and still don't get suspended. So to suspend them when they didn't break any laws would be dumb, just my opinion.
I hate to say this, but I think it is about time to cancel it for good. I'm embarrassed to say that I was at ISU when this all first started. I thought and said it was stupid at the time and it is just as stupid now. Rioting is not entertainment. If we can't all see that then we don't deserve to have nice things.
If you want to turn over a car, make sure that you are turning over your own car.
If you want to turn over a car, make sure that you are turning over your own car.
I agree with this. Plus, it sounds like they were there, but were smart enough to leave because they knew the situation they were in. Now if they were there all night and instigating the riot, then they would definitely get in trouble.
Freshmen, Frat Boys, Sorority Girls getting drunk so they can have an excuse to hook up with Frat Boys.
Bad mix.
Bad mix.
The cops never told anyone to disperse, or at least I left before they had the bull horns out. They just told people to get off the street.
Just curious as to why you wouldn't take your family there. We have been taking our family to VEISHEA every year for the past 10 years. This was actually the first year the majority of us are not able to go and my kids are so bummed. We do the parade and all the family-friendly activities on campus. They still exist, they just get over-shadowed and in this case forgotten by the drunk idiots who will ruin it. We see farm animal, ride horses, do science experiments, watch glass blowing, eat ice cream, do flight simulations, and all sorts of other activities.
While I agree with your thought that we should wait until all the facts are known, you also proved my point when you said "sometimes these situations arise and you become a part of something you didn't want to be in at all. Bystanders become enveloped in stuff who had no part in what started.".
That is how being a bystander can turn into a participant and why you make the decision to distance yourself from the beginning. Kids make mistakes, adults make mistakes, etc but it is how you position yourself that can determine how easily you can get sucked into something bigger than you intended.
