Just plowing through the Lindy's preseason mag and I see that they have Tom Herman listed as the No. 2 hottest coordinator in the country. Thought that you guys might be interested in that being that he was in Ames not too long ago.
Tom Herman
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Does herman call the plays at Ohio State? I think he is a good OC. However, I think he will make a lousy head coach someday.
Herman will make a great head coach after next year. He had more talent at Rice than he did at ISU and has coached for some great ones.
Given how much further things seemed to fall apart after he left, maybe he wasn't as bad as he seemed at the time?
Given the past few years, I wonder how much of that was Rhoads, not Hermann. Though I do think he's a guy who can only succeed with 5* talent, he doesn't know how to build an offense around the talent he has.
The more I think about it, the more I am led to this conclusion. I think he was really handcuffed by Rhoads.
Sure, with a guy named James Casey...who wasn't ranked with 5 stars, but turned out to be a 5* talent.
I actually did a statistics project comparing Herman and Messingham on 3 and Outs per game and they were nearly the same. Herman had a higher max but Messingham had a higher average (just barely). I think the difference was we at least got some production out of Herman's play calling. He drew up some good drives but I don't necessarily buy that he was that much better than Messingham when he was here. Not suggesting I want Messingham over Herman, but I honestly don't know that Herman could get the job done here either.
CycloneErik
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The big wins we relish (and should) happened while Herman was here.
I doubt he's the architect behind them all, but they aren't happening so far without him.
I doubt he's the architect behind them all, but they aren't happening so far without him.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2676900
Does anyone remember this former Cyclone that was a Broyles award winner for being the top assistant coach?
Does anyone remember this former Cyclone that was a Broyles award winner for being the top assistant coach?
Ohio State's offense isn't that great these days. Players like Braxton Miller and Carlos Hyde are great. I'm not giving too much credit to Herman because he puts Miller on the field and he makes incredible plays, like faking out all three EIU linebackers on one play last year.
It's hard to run a spread offense with the least threatening group of WR in the conference. Talent wise it was a one dimensional offense. He didn't do anything with the resources he had, but IMO it still got worse when he left.
