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Dandy

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The kid or their parent is getting $$$ from the coach.

This. The high school or AAU coach has a "prior relationship" and they can gift money to the player. Pay the coach, bring in the player, coach pays the player and it's all legal.

Welcome to the NCAA Rulebook.
 

siklon

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This. The high school or AAU coach has a "prior relationship" and they can gift money to the player. Pay the coach, bring in the player, coach pays the player and it's all legal.

Welcome to the NCAA Rulebook.

But how much are we talking? Is it only a few grand here and there?
 

Knownothing

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It's amazing Smith hasn't been hired away already.

Something is up with Smith. Either he does not want to deal with the grind of college basketball. He does not want to leave family in that area, or he has something in his background that makes him a hard person to hire. I don't get it either. He has had so much talent in his program. You would think coaches who hire AAU coaches to get players would have got him a long time ago.
 

Dandy

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But how much are we talking? Is it only a few grand here and there?

I think there is a cap on it before you have to pay taxes on the gift money. A tax accountant would probably know the answer to this. Or Google. Google can find everything.
 

twocoach

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This. The high school or AAU coach has a "prior relationship" and they can gift money to the player. Pay the coach, bring in the player, coach pays the player and it's all legal. Welcome to the NCAA Rulebook.
I'd love to see in the ncaa rulebook where this is legal. Jamar Samuels of K-State was suspended for taking $200 from his former AAU coach a few years ago. Now you guy are saying that an AAU coach can gift a player $14,000? http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/...sas-state-tournament-game-more-ncaa-hypocrisy
 

LLCoolCY

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Curious if Fran is starting to get more confident on the recruiting trail and looking to take on Fred for priority recruits? Not to mention trying to get a name for himself in Michigan

Jamie Shaw@JamieShaw5 4m Cassius Winston 6' 2016 #TheFamily Tells me Iowa has offered
 

Gunnerclone

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I'd love to see in the ncaa rulebook where this is legal. Jamar Samuels of K-State was suspended for taking $200 from his former AAU coach a few years ago. Now you guy are saying that an AAU coach can gift a player $14,000? http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/...sas-state-tournament-game-more-ncaa-hypocrisy

Next level. Think about it. Coach gives players parents, aunt, uncle, grandparents, sister, whoever it may be money. Said relative gives player money. As was noted in the article, this guy wasn't trying to hide anything or skirt any rules, he just violated the rule cuz people gots to eat.
 

Cydkar

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Curious if Fran is starting to get more confident on the recruiting trail and looking to take on Fred for priority recruits? Not to mention trying to get a name for himself in Michigan

Jamie Shaw@JamieShaw54mCassius Winston 6' 2016 #TheFamily Tells me Iowa has offered

He's offered Michigan talent all along. Clemmons is from there and he's offered others. Eric Davis, for one.
 

twocoach

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Next level. Think about it. Coach gives players parents, aunt, uncle, grandparents, sister, whoever it may be money. Said relative gives player money. As was noted in the article, this guy wasn't trying to hide anything or skirt any rules, he just violated the rule cuz people gots to eat.
The poster I was replying to was saying that this is an allowable action per the ncaa rules. I am simply doubting that this is true and would like to see this documented in the ncaa rulebook. I understand how payments to kids/families happens. I just think that it is BS that because an AAU coach has a "prior relationship" with a player that he is allowed to give them money under ncaa rules. I do not believe that it is and provided a clear example of it NOT being allowed. Think about it.
 

crash_zone

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And please corret me if I am wrong but the last I heard, the NCAA cap on money given by a former AAU coach is ZERO.

While not allowed by the NCAA, the NCAA does not have the power to get the records (they are not a law enforcement/government agency). Likewise a relative or coach is not required to disclose gifts to a recruits relatives as long as it is below the IRS limit.

Aka - not allowed per NCAA but also impossible to prove without the gifter or giftee turning them in.
 

Wesley

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And please corret me if I am wrong but the last I heard, the NCAA cap on money given by a former AAU coach is ZERO.

Yep. You just pay federal taxes starting at $14k level. In nebraska, state matches what federal charges. You could give them a million and just have them pay taxes.
 

Dandy

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@GoodmanESPN: Manhattan gets a HUGE lift for this season with news that Cincy transfer Jermaine Lawrence is eligible.

I don't know the whole Lawrence story but someone explain to me how Lawrence can play all year for Cincinnati and then transfer and be eligible right away but McKay doesn't play a second for Marquette and he has to sit out first semester at ISU.

The NCAA is dumb as (any and all expletives).
 

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