Better. My feathers are unruffled now.
Some do.
Woah, woah, woah.
Great apes have feathers?
Oh Jameis
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Woah, woah, woah.
Great apes have feathers?
I'm super cereal. I refuse to pass that kind of judgement on someone based on what happened here.
The, "oh he's just acting like a college kid" excuse is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I was a moron in college, and I never:A) got accused of sexual assaultB) committed theft
Didn't Florida State reopen the Title IX investigation of the rape? And he is still acting stupid. Wonder where this table is? Dining hall? That would be appetizing. 
Kind of shocking he is bothering with being on campus.
Kind of shocking he is bothering with being on campus.
Didn't Florida State reopen the Title IX investigation of the rape? And he is still acting stupid. Wonder where this table is? Dining hall? That would be appetizing.
I'm surprised he was smart enough to get into any college, have you heard him talk?
Like I said, walk a mile in my shoes, you might feel differently.
If I was sitting in a cafeteria and some guy got up on a table and shouted that (internet meme or not), my first reaction would NOT be - gee, he really things highly of women, to talk about them that way.
If you stood up in a meeting and shouted that to your female boss, do you think it would diminish your chances for promotion?
I really don't care that it's a meme, and that it's "everywhere". Using it (and excusing it) indicates a lack of respect for women. It paints the picture that the person quoting it or defending it thinks women are only worth one thing. And that one thing ain't respect.
"I want to apologize to my teammates. I did a selfish act for them."
Woof, this kid isn't bright.
Woof, this kid isn't bright.
This is the second time I've seen that example, I don't know why we're equating a college lunch room to a professional meeting?
Anyways it seems like you want to take this to a seriously personal level by insinuating I don't respect women and instead of responding in kind I'll just bid you a good day.
I think the quote actually was (effectively)
"I really want to apologize to my teammates because I have now made a selfish act for them ..... and that's all"
Because when you laugh it off at the college lunchroom level, it gives an aura of approval to the act...carrying it farther into the "real world" shows how really bad an idea it is to jump up and shout that. I apologize for making it seem personal by using "you" as an example; it was really intended more as a collective you than a specific you, but perhaps I could have worded it better.
Mild observation: it DOES appear from your posts that you are excusing or laughing off his action.
I think maybe Bigman is just not willing to judge him without knowing how he treats women, Bigman is a good guy around here I think anyway.
On this one, I admit I am being judgmental. He just seems entitled. If he wants crab legs, he takes them. And if he wants the one thing he appears to want from women?
On this one, I admit I am being judgmental. He just seems entitled. If he wants crab legs, he takes them. And if he wants the one thing he appears to want from women?
If it were a stand alone incident I would think a suspension would be harsh. But he continues to make poor decisions, and I believe that Jimbo is justified in suspending him. After you have made as many mistakes as he has made you can't really take anything as an isolated incident anymore.
I haven't had any bad interactions with Bigman either...in fact we've agreed on topics in the past. I think it escalated with this chain of posts. He may not be willing to judge based on one incident, but would he have the same response to it if he took into account other legal problems Jameis has had, or was looking at this latest stunt through a woman's eyes? From either of those perspectives, I think we can begin to frame a picture of Jameis' attitudes toward women, and attitudes can be a good indicator of how a man treats a woman or women. If he doesn't respect them in general in public situations, why would he respect them individually in private?
So a suspension of a half is going to keep him from knocking out his gf later? An immature sense of humor probably isn't the most direct connection to domestic abuse later in life.
Come on, spend your time getting worked up about real issues that can actually be used to demonstrate how men should treat women and kids. There are some great examples out there than can actually be used for good, this is not one of them.
Treating women and children well starts with respect. From that comment, and from other accusations, I'd say respect of women is lacking in this young man. I'm not worked up, but saying he doesn't need a reality check is a little short-sighted on your part.
I disagree with last part, I'm not the one making generalizations on his attitude towards women based on him yelling out an interent meme he thinks is funny. I have no idea what level of respect he has towards women.
While I think it's absolutely tasteless, it's not the act alone that is the problem.
Let's say there's a famous person that beat a woman. Served his time, blah blah blah. You see him on the street and he and his girlfriend are in an argument. his past would tend to say that, although he's not doing anything illegal, it probably is a really stupid idea to be doing this in public where people are automatically going to connect it to when he beat a woman in his past.
Winston did nothing "wrong" other than use vulgar and offensive language in a public setting. But being in the spotlight and having the sexual assault accusations would leave a logical person to conclude it's best not to scream about ******* any woman in her ***** in a public, university setting.
I'd suspend him for a full game just for being a ******* moron.
Let's say there's a famous person that beat a woman. Served his time, blah blah blah. You see him on the street and he and his girlfriend are in an argument. his past would tend to say that, although he's not doing anything illegal, it probably is a really stupid idea to be doing this in public where people are automatically going to connect it to when he beat a woman in his past.
Winston did nothing "wrong" other than use vulgar and offensive language in a public setting. But being in the spotlight and having the sexual assault accusations would leave a logical person to conclude it's best not to scream about ******* any woman in her ***** in a public, university setting.
I'd suspend him for a full game just for being a ******* moron.
Yeah, a half a game is just chicken ****. I want to suspend him before he does something even dumber (again), but I don't want to risk a loss so I better make sure I have him for the second half.
"I said, are you selfish? They said, I'm selfish if you selfish. And I said, we selfish then."
