I Say Keep PR!
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You people who want Paul Rhoads to stay can't see the grand scheme. You like the guy, we all do, but he can't recruit. This is the second full year with 100% players that he and his staff recruited. The last two years are by far his worst two seasons and this season is even worse than last season. The team continues to digress and the talent continues to run dry. You people don't seem to realize that his early success was with players that McCarney and Chizik recruited and that success wasn't really much success. He pulled a few wins out of his *** to even get the team bowl eligible. It took Nebraska handing the game to ISU literally, and the upset of a lifetime against OSU. Take those two upsets away and ISU under Rhoads would have went to 1 bowl game. 7-6, 5-7, 6-7, and 6-7 would have gotten most coaches fired at most programs. ISU gives him a 10 year contract extension. After that every player on the team was guys his staff and him recruited and look at how bad the team is. Signing a bunch of JUCOs isn't going to magically turn the team around and make the defense a winner. As you can see this year, that the JUCO's he recruits aren't very good. He signed 8 JUCO's last year and NONE of them are impact players. Some of these guys that are healthy don't even see the field. If you can't see that this program is a sunken ship, or at least almost completely sunk under Rhoads then I feel sorry for you. He is a great, likable guy, but that does not automatically make him a good head coach. He can't recruit and when you can't recruit you aren't going to be successful. The offense has talent and in year two of Mangino I expect the offense to be very good. The defense however will be just as bad and the record will be similar to the last two seasons.He is likely not going anywhere because of the boneheaded contract the Jamie gave him, so you pro-Rhoads guys will get another year to finally open your eyes and see that he is not going to make this program a winner.
All you get from the pro-CPR crowd is 'we can't get anyone better', 'he needs more time', 'he's one of us, he wants to be here', 'he's so proud to be our coach'.
But when it comes to them giving any points or signs that things are going to change with him here for long haul...crickets.
They refuse to admit the fairy tale they fell in love with is turning into a disaster. Rah rah speeches are not going to turn this mess around
But when it comes to them giving any points or signs that things are going to change with him here for long haul...crickets.
They refuse to admit the fairy tale they fell in love with is turning into a disaster. Rah rah speeches are not going to turn this mess around
A few reasons for me is that after 6 seasons it seems there is still a very large minority that still can't spell Rhoads name correctly. If JP goes out an gets a Ken Niumatalolo, Pete Kwiatkowski, or Jeff Jagodzinski, I don't think most of the fans will be able to handle the constant spelling errors of a new coach unless he has a pretty simple name. Even if I think CPR should be fired, I still think it is highly disrespectful to intentionally spell his name wrong.
Also, I would like to see how much those new CF servers can handle. I wonder how much stress it would put on the servers if ISU has a similar season next year and how many more people might come to CF to voice their displeasure than this year. I wonder if it would hit a point where CW pulls the plug for 10 minutes on CF.
Also, I would like to see how much those new CF servers can handle. I wonder how much stress it would put on the servers if ISU has a similar season next year and how many more people might come to CF to voice their displeasure than this year. I wonder if it would hit a point where CW pulls the plug for 10 minutes on CF.
God i love this loser mentality.
How many of those bowl games did we show up and play? 1.. ******* 1 We got blown out of the water by a CUSA, and an AVERAGE Big East Team...
At that time we did not know if there would actually be an UP cycle. Victor Alexander was a senior during that second terrible season. The cupboard was definitely not full We had two horrific seasons in a row and we had a basketball player involved in a Burger King robbery recently. Definitely dark times for ISU. You clowns would have been calling for Johnny Orr's head on a platter.
Ayeni, Luna are both injured. Jordan Harris redshirted. Trent Taylor is actually pretty good, as is Dale Pierson. Wendell Taiese has played some. Qujuan Floyd has played some . And only Devron Moore is what I would say is a complete washout. The guys that have not redshirted have actually played quite a bit. Trent Taylor is a starter.
And Iowa State is considered to be the leader in getting DT Demond Tucker, the Juco Defensive Player of the Year last year.
Explain to me what we are out exactly by giving Rhoads another year.
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We have won zero games in the Conference for football several times. Dan McCarney went winless one season and only won a single conference game in 5 seasons. Can't recall a single season we have ever not won a conference game in basketball. It just doesn't happen. Hell, even Ken Trickey won 7 conference games during his two rotten seasons.
Oh gee, another "but...but...Dan McCarney..." post.
CPR enjoys better facilities and a larger support staff than Mac could ever dream of.
For example, Mac had one full-time strength coach: Matt McGettigan.
CPR has five.
I'm not totally opposed to firing the entire staff and starting the whole program completely over from scratch and spending 3 or 4 years building a new identity like many of you are suggesting.
But I think the people who are really invested in iowa state football are more willing to give Rhoads one more season. They've been through rougher times and understand the mistakes Rhoads has made but believes he can correct them and turn things around.
Are we convinced he can do it? Nope. Just hoping. But i really think he's our only feasible option for the 2015 season. Long term? I have no idea.
The people who don't give a ****-- only care about "Hoiball" just want change for the sake of change and generally have no effing clue.
But I think the people who are really invested in iowa state football are more willing to give Rhoads one more season. They've been through rougher times and understand the mistakes Rhoads has made but believes he can correct them and turn things around.
Are we convinced he can do it? Nope. Just hoping. But i really think he's our only feasible option for the 2015 season. Long term? I have no idea.
The people who don't give a ****-- only care about "Hoiball" just want change for the sake of change and generally have no effing clue.
Hiring a new coach does not guarantee that will happen. Keeping Rhoads does not guarantee that we won't go to a bowl game next year. You keep acting like all we have to do is fire Rhoads and all is good and we automatically win.
I think most people are willing to give Rhoads next year too. We do have a shot at a decent season next year with Rhoads. And we are addressing the Defensive Line problems with Juco's in this class. Demond Tucker would help a lot. And with Tucker and Harris in the lineup on defense that would help immensely.
Lol. The fact that you think people just want change for the sake of change shows that it is you that has 'no effing clue'.
Show me any other program that would keep a coach not in their first couple years after theyve gone 5-19 like CPR will have after this season. Show me a program that would keep their coach when he's 7-25 like CPR will have been since his last "upset" (TCU in 2012, that wasnt really as big of a deal since they lost their QB the day before the game) game. ISU fans have been more than patient and we have always given coaches more than enough time. In fact, it starts to make me think that maybe the fact that we give so much time is part of the problem. Every coach that we waste a couple extra years on trying to turn it around is another missed opportunity to find someone who really can do it.
The trend line is horrible, and shows no sign of improving. Go back and look at our records without the rose colored glasses we all had on at the time. Look at all of our 'upsets' we were so happy about and see how aside from OSU 2011 they werent all that special. (ex: texas. turns out they were a total dumpster fire that year)
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We have a shot at a decent start with just about anyone at the helm next season thanks to the way our schedule is set up. That might be the perfect way to start with a new coach and give a new coaching staff something to build on.
Explain please? Also, I don't think it matters who coaches us next year. We aren't going to a bowl. But why not try to start the rebuilding process instead of letting Rhoads drive the program further into the ground?
Such original arguments in this 100th thread on the topic. Nothing is going to change this year, but keep up your hate and name-calling.
