Big 12 Left Out

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The names don't matter one bit. The resumes are what mattered.

What? It's all about money which means it's all about big names. TCU played a harder schedule than OSU and they both finished with one loss. ESPN's magical SOS formula is the only one with OSU ahead of TCU. If it were only about on field results, TCU would be in.
 

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So I guess we probably won't make the playoffs next year after we go 11-1. Boy that's really gonna suck.
 

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The simplest solution is to schedule better in the Non-Conference. Stop scheduling NJIT.
 

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Forget all of the talk. This is about money and ratings for ESPN. Period. Even their analysts who said that the best four teams got in and then turned right around and said how lucky Alabama is that they don't have to face TCU or Baylor! Lucky?? It is freaking rigged so that the SEC wins this thing. STFU about the non-conference for Baylor. I have not heard a peep about the three cupcakes that Alabama played...
I've looked at other SOS rankings and literally the only place I've seen Ohio State ahead of TCU is on ESPN.

Also, usually when you talk about quality wins, you look at record vs. Top 50 or Top 25. ESPN used record vs. Top 60. That's a very arbitrary number. Want to know why they went from 50 to 60? IT HELPS OHIO STATE. 3 of the teams between 51-60 are B1G teams and only one is from the Big 12. If you look at Top 50, TCU and Baylor both have better wins against good teams. But when you look at top 60, Ohio State looks better.
 

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I've looked at other SOS rankings and literally the only place I've seen Ohio State ahead of TCU is on ESPN.

Also, usually when you talk about quality wins, you look at record vs. Top 50 or Top 25. ESPN used record vs. Top 60. That's a very arbitrary number. Want to know why they went from 50 to 60? IT HELPS OHIO STATE. 3 of the teams between 51-60 are B1G teams and only one is from the Big 12. If you look at Top 50, TCU and Baylor both have better wins against good teams. But when you look at top 60, Ohio State looks better.

Exactly. ESPN was extremely biased in their presentation of resumes. No idea where the SOS numbers are coming from.
 

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I've looked at other SOS rankings and literally the only place I've seen Ohio State ahead of TCU is on ESPN.

This myth that Ohio State has a better SOS than TCU is out there and I have no clue why. I follow SOS rankings all year, TCU does not have a worse schedule than Ohio State.
 

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This myth that Ohio State has a better SOS than TCU is out there and I have no clue why. I follow SOS rankings all year, TCU does not have a worse schedule than Ohio State.

It was created by ESPN and others are repeating it as fact.
 

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What real non-doctored SOS rankings look like, and have basically looked like for the past six weeks:
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What real non-doctored SOS rankings look like, and have basically looked like for the past six weeks:
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10 spots is pretty insignificant, IMO, when you are in the 40's all bets are off. Who cares, it was close and OSU dominated a good opponent the last game of the year. It was not a total slight that people make it out to be. Schedule someone in the non-con with a pulse and make the SOS difference undisputable. Thats the solution. Or add a title game with 10 teams. Expansion should be the last resort at this point, unless you can steal a power 5 team.
 

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10 spots is pretty insignificant, IMO, when you are in the 40's all bets are off. Who cares, it was close and OSU dominated a good opponent the last game of the year. It was not a total slight that people make it out to be. Schedule someone in the non-con with a pulse and make the SOS difference undisputable. Thats the solution. Or add a title game with 10 teams. Expansion should be the last resort at this point, unless you can steal a power 5 team.

10 spots higher is enough that ESPN shouldn't be saying they are LOWER!

TCU scheduled a top half Big Ten team. Do you not see the irony in that because it's pretty thick???
 

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10 spots is pretty insignificant, IMO, when you are in the 40's all bets are off. Who cares, it was close and OSU dominated a good opponent the last game of the year. It was not a total slight that people make it out to be. Schedule someone in the non-con with a pulse and make the SOS difference undisputable. Thats the solution. Or add a title game with 10 teams. Expansion should be the last resort at this point, unless you can steal a power 5 team.

TCU dominated Minnesota which was a tougher opponent than anyone OSU played in the noncon.
 

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TCU dominated Minnesota which was a tougher opponent than anyone OSU played in the noncon.

Ohio State gets credit for Michigan State playing the most awesome 19 point loss that has ever occurred in sports. Just go with it.
 

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I've looked at other SOS rankings and literally the only place I've seen Ohio State ahead of TCU is on ESPN.

Also, usually when you talk about quality wins, you look at record vs. Top 50 or Top 25. ESPN used record vs. Top 60. That's a very arbitrary number. Want to know why they went from 50 to 60? IT HELPS OHIO STATE. 3 of the teams between 51-60 are B1G teams and only one is from the Big 12. If you look at Top 50, TCU and Baylor both have better wins against good teams. But when you look at top 60, Ohio State looks better.

Yeah, I would like to know what SOS rankings the committee used? And if they used ESPN's, why?

I wondered why ESPN looked at the top 60 teams, but now it makes complete sense. It helps Ohio State BIG time.

I'm convinced a Big 12 Championship game would not have mattered at all. There is no $$ to be made with a TCU or Baylor in there over Ohio State. That is what it all comes down to. $$$.

And until I hear one single ESPN "analyst" bring up $$$..... they are just talking gibberish nonsense. It's more about who you are than how good you are. If it were Texas and OU instead of TCU and Baylor, it would have been a lot different.... even though it shouldn't matter.
 

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TCU had one win against a good team - K-State.

Comperable to Ohio State's best win. Their loss is better than OSU's loss. TCU's SOS is better in spite of ESPN's lie.

Common opponent, Minnesota could barely get a first down on TCU's defense.