Dejean Jones

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And clearly, this is not abuse of power. Abuse of power would be "give me a game worn jersey, or else I will arrest you" or "you didn't do anything wrong, but I am going to arrest you".

This does NOT feel like the cops were out of control at all, from what I've read. Quite the opposite, feels like they gave him every chance to straighten up.

You have next to zero facts to make this "assumption". But I guess everyone has to have an opinion on everything these days, even when they know nothing about the situation. Carry on.
 

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I think you are way off on this. I know a few cops. Generally, if you are respectful to a cop when doing something minor, you usually get a warning and sent on your way. If you are rude, obnoxious, disrespectful, said cop WILL give you a ticket, and will look for other things to charge you with too. When a cop throws a bunch of charges out to see what will stick, they are basically saying "ok, you want to act like a jerk, I will treat you like one". Things like "interference with official acts" and such get added to whatever else you did to start with.
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Question. Does BDJ have any recourse after being charged with "Hosting a Drug House" & that being transmitted all over via the media? I.e. - could he sue the prosecutor for defamation of character?

Not saying it'll happen, I'm just honestly curious.
 

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Of course now you can tell me exactly where that line gets drawn right? Because that's what other players will ask. If there was a clear expectation laid out with the team then suspend him. If your deciding after the fact to draw the line in the sand behind him that's bs.

Well I would agree. But it really isn't a "team" thing. It's a staff/player thing.

Is it really that hard to expect a kid on full ride scholarship to not have the police routinely showing up his door? So much so that the staff had to get involved? That's not an understood condition of being a player? That once the staff DID get involved a likely condition was to shape up? That the line hadn't been drawn?

I'm not saying he's crossed the line necessarily. Of that he SHOULD be suspended. I do take exception to this general theme that because the charges were dropped, that the coaches are somehow helpless to act.
 

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The dudes been here for 5 or 6 months and this is at least the 5th time he has had a complaint or something like that? If he keeps doing and doesn't get punished then he will never learn and he will keep doing it all year which could lead to suspension again conference foes. So I'd suspened him, and try to teach him a lesson, but for the Southern and Drake games :)

The article says there were numerous noise complaints involving BDJ's apartment AND OTHERS. By guess is the building has numerous apartments for male and female basketball players and some of them have also gotten out of line. It might be something that has to be looked into for both teams.
 

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Question. Does BDJ have any recourse after being charged with "Hosting a Drug House" & that being transmitted all over via the media? I.e. - could he sue the prosecutor for defamation of character?

Not saying it'll happen, I'm just honestly curious.

No..
 

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@TravisHines21: Spoke to BDJ's attorney, said police tried to use drug house statute where it didn't apply and judge recognized that.

That make me feel like they are saying they made a clerical error?
I still think this is going end with us not seeing BDJ until the Drake game.
 

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Mods, can we merge threads please? So many BDJ threads.

@TravisHines21: Spoke to BDJ's attorney, said police tried to use drug house statute where it didn't apply and judge recognized that.

Sorry to go off topic a little bit here, but this "Drug House" charge seems to me to be a pretty shotty charge. Now granted, I didn't go and read the actual laws, just basing this on the news reports I have read. Seems like a pretty steep charge for something like having someone light a joint in your house without you really knowing about it.

It seems like the same thing could be applied to a drunk driving charge. Guy borrows your car (Yes, I actually let friends borrow my car in colleg, because it was a piece of **** and they didn't have a car) Them getting drunk and then busted while driving my car, and then I get thrown in jail as well for allowing a drunk guy to drive my car.

I mean maybe I just don't understand the law, but it seems the evidence they used to originally arrest BDJ on this charge makes it a pretty broad and BS charge. I mean there is a big difference between running a drug house where people come to get lit up compared to someone lighting a joint at a party you are throwing.

Again, sorry for throwing this off topic a bit if anyone answers, it just seems like anyone could be arrested under this charge based on suspicion alone. Even as an adult, I've had people light up on my property before, even though I had no knowledge that they were doing so until after the fact.
 

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I think you are way off on this. I know a few cops. Generally, if you are respectful to a cop when doing something minor, you usually get a warning and sent on your way. If you are rude, obnoxious, disrespectful, said cop WILL give you a ticket, and will look for other things to charge you with too. When a cop throws a bunch of charges out to see what will stick, they are basically saying "ok, you want to act like a jerk, I will treat you like one". Things like "interference with official acts" and such get added to whatever else you did to start with.

And clearly, this is not abuse of power. Abuse of power would be "give me a game worn jersey, or else I will arrest you" or "you didn't do anything wrong, but I am going to arrest you".

This does NOT feel like the cops were out of control at all, from what I've read. Quite the opposite, feels like they gave him every chance to straighten up.

I would say this is generally the case and I don't know what happened in this case but there are some LEO's who do not behave this way. That includes some officers on the Ames PD.
 

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Sorry to go off topic a little bit here, but this "Drug House" charge seems to me to be a pretty shotty charge. Now granted, I didn't go and read the actual laws, just basing this on the news reports I have read. Seems like a pretty steep charge for something like having someone light a joint in your house without you really knowing about it.
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Well it was a house and they did find drugs so.....
 

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Question. Does BDJ have any recourse after being charged with "Hosting a Drug House" & that being transmitted all over via the media? I.e. - could he sue the prosecutor for defamation of character?

Not saying it'll happen, I'm just honestly curious.

No. Such incidents require proof of malicious intent or brazen cases of ignoring facts. BDJ would also have to stand to lose value due to judgement of character. As a college basketball player, it's just not there.
 

RubyClone

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Why would you suspend someone for a noise complaint? JFC some of you are ********.

The first one, probably not.

The 5th or 6th one when my staff has been active in trying to remedy the situation - I may think that's a kid who doesn't recognize and/or care that it's an issue worthy of my and my staff's time and effort.

I don't believe anyone is suggesting the noise is the factor. The fact it's happened repeatedly and at least once now under the staff's immediate watch and knowledge is more the concern.
 
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gwoodclone

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Why would you suspend someone for a noise complaint? JFC some of you are ********.

At this point I don't really care one way or the other on what Fred decides to do about a suspension, but if he were to suspend Bryce it wouldn't be because of the noise violation. If the earlier reports are true that the Ames PD worked with Fred and the staff to prevent future noise complaints, the suspension would be because Bryce disrespected and ignored Fred, and just generally behaved like an idiot.
 

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