*** Postgame IOWA STATE vs Texas Tech Game(day) Thread ***

Clonefan32

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We just can't handle success.

Last years team entered the Top 10 and lost three straight games to Oklahoma, Kansas and Texas

This year, we enter the top 10, beat MSVS then go lose to a very bad South Carolina team. Work our way back into the top 10, barely squeak one out against KSU at home then lose to the worst team in the Big 12.

Seems like Fred needs to work on keeping the team focused once we start getting a little respect...
 

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I maintain that all ISU athletic woes, in the past, currently and in future are directly effected by the little known "Curse of Squaw Creek". A decedent of the formally long running "Curse of the Bambino" that Boston endured for decades. However I am not sure the CSC (Curse of Squaw Creek) will ever be overcome.

It's not the players, the coaches, the referees, the fans, the weather or bad luck. It is simply the CSC.

Move the damn creek then.
 

CloneDontCare

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I'm in full meltdown mode.

That's a bad enough game to completely alter all expectations for the season.

Now I shall retreat into apathy to save my blood pressure. My care cup is now empty.
 

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They were hitting shots and we weren't... We were up I think 8-7 and we just let them run twenty by us .... Hard to come back from down 19. This team should have been able to do it but they were shooting great at the line and kept hitting shots where we were missing. Three games (Maryland, USC and now TTU) we have gone ice cold from 3. We need to figure out how to recover. Lots of heart to get us back in the game but just couldn't catch a break. I really thought that we should have gotten a T at the end there but that's how it goes. Everything marginal went TTU's way. Life on the road. Shouldn't have bothered us at all.
 

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I know Matt Thomas made some clutch threes at the end of the first half. But he missed some wide-open threes in critical stretches of the game. I know others had missed shots down the stretch. But damn, Thomas!!!

If you're blaming Thomas for missing threes, feel free to mention Niang and Naz along the way for the same criticism.
In fact, at that point, feel free to call out a whole lot of Niang's missteps and failures today. The man had a bad, bad game.

It's fun to point the finger at Thomas, but Niang didn't live up to the hype at all, and hasn't for most of the last few games. That stuff happens in sports.
 

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Iowa State vs. Texas Monday is basically an elimination game for the conference championship. With how Kansas is playing now they may only lose 1 or 2 more.
 

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We lost this game because of perimeter defense and underestimating Tech. We are barely a top 25 team right now. Let's hope we can pick it up over the next two months or we will be a first round elimination.
 

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We lost this game because of perimeter defense and underestimating Tech. We are barely a top 25 team right now. Let's hope we can pick it up over the next two months or we will be a first round elimination.

Oh grow up. We are a top 25 team. Top 25 teams have ****** losses. They do. You wouldn't say that Villanova is not a top 25 team or Duke or Wisconsin or every other top 15 team that has had a ****** game.

There are a lot of things for this team to fix. That is a fact.
 

cyclonez7

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The main thing I've noticed is that we are not giving the ball to Niang in the post as much as we used to. We need to give him the ball down low so he can either use his touch around the basket or draw double teams and then pass out to the open man. When the threes aren't falling, we need to feed Georges, our most consistent offensive option.
 

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I'm reposting this from the game thread, with slight alterations:

Why not bring that intensity from the opening tip?

I don't have a lot of criticism for Hoiberg system, but "let the game develop" strategy sometimes drives me crazy ... ISU was able to overcome it numerous times last season (UNI, OSU at home, Baylor in Big 12 title game), but it isn't working as well this year, so far.

Whittling that game down to the final minute, after how awful the first half went, shows Hoiberg's ability to chess-match and possibly manufacture wins in situations when games go awry. Pay more attention to the front-end.​

 

WastedTalent

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Everything marginal went TTU's way. Life on the road. Shouldn't have bothered us at all.

It seems like that because you're a fan of Iowa St, but really they got some big breaks at the end to even be remotely in the game, two and1's, offensive foul on tech, and a banked 3.

This loss is because of bad/lazy defense for 33 minutes, nothing else. Iowa St scored more than enough points to beat a last place tech team.
 

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I may get called out for questioning Fred, but he took WWWAAYYY too long to call that first timeout and stop the bleeding. At home, maybe you let them play through it. But not on the road. Especially after their last away game got out of hand early in a similar fashion.

That being said I still think we should keep Hoiberg around for a few more games before we decide if we should fire him or not. :jimlad:
 

CyCloned

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The game was lost because of shooting, period. Yes, ISU could have played better defense and rebounded better, but the clones will not win games against anyone shooting 3 pointers like they did today. TT was absolutely on fire from outside and shot way above their average from the FT line.

This ISU team is not a great defensive team, and will not be. Making shots is what makes this team go.
 

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We'll be OK. Tough loss on the road. Get over it. ALL conference games are tough, epically on the road. It's hard to play all these games tough.
 

cyclones500

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Iowa State vs. Texas Monday is basically an elimination game for the conference championship.

Highly accurate. Texas is basically out of the running, with home losses to two of the only major threats to win it (KU and OU), unless UT becomes a road-beater. ISU wasted its win over KU with the Tech loss; KU holds another advantage by winning at BU, when Iowa State couldn't.
 

jsb

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I may get called out for questioning Fred, but he took WWWAAYYY too long to call that first timeout and stop the bleeding. At home, maybe you let them play through it. But not on the road. Especially after their last away game got out of hand early in a similar fashion.

That being said I still think we should keep Hoiberg around for a few more games before we decide if we should fire him or not. :jimlad:

I think that's a fair point. But that's Fred. That's part of the reason why we love him. Got to accept the few bad things for all of the good things.