KC Star: The Big 12 has the title race it deserves

[Cyclonepride]

Nice article and nice comment on ISU by Bill Self

"But this week’s developments crowded the field. The Jayhawks failed to finish at West Virginia and Iowa State learned to win on the road taking games at Oklahoma State and Texas. KU coach Bill Self rightfully called it the best week by a Big 12 team this season.

Oklahoma and West Virginia, which also collected road victories on Saturday, also must be scoreboard-watched."


Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/co...-of-kansas/article10902656.html#storylink=cpy

 

[CascadeClone]

I just don't see it happening. Even if we win out (which I think is maybe 25% chance), and KU loses at OU (>75% chance) -- then it's shared and KU will keep their streak. Don't they have like 3 shared titles already in the 10 in a row?

So I'd give us about a 20% chance to share, but 1% chance to win outright. I just don't see KU dropping 2 games with the schedule they have. Go EMAW, I suppose.

Dang that Tech game...

 

[Cyclonepride]

I just don't see it happening. Even if we win out (which I think is maybe 25% chance), and KU loses at OU (>75% chance) -- then it's shared and KU will keep their streak. Don't they have like 3 shared titles already in the 10 in a row?

So I'd give us about a 20% chance to share, but 1% chance to win outright. I just don't see KU dropping 2 games with the schedule they have. Go EMAW, I suppose.

Dang that Tech game...

So what if it is shared? That would be a huge step in the right direction for this program. Winning out will be incredibly tough, but I really don't think KU will win at OU.

 

[CyFan61]

So what if it is shared? That would be a huge step in the right direction for this program. Winning out will be incredibly tough, but I really don't think KU will win at OU.

I think there are a number of ISU fans who would rather see KU's streak end than see ISU win a share of the title. It is a strange thing to see.

Of course the optimal outcome is ISU wins the title solo and KU finishes 10th in the conference. But at this point in the season ISU has a realistic path to the Big 12 title. Who gives an eye-poking Woodbury about anything else? We could be Big 12 champs!

 

[acgclone]

I would lik a share of the title for Fred to sell to recruits....

Obviously we would all love to shut up the "streak" talk, but in the scheme of things sharing the title would certainly help.

Plus we split with them so unless they were to beat us in the tourney, there would be no reason to feel that we didn't deserve the championship

 

[HoibergIsMyHero]

Maybe the big 12 will start scheduling the 2nd game later in the season now

 

[casey1973]

Looking at the picture of Cliff Alexander of the link that was posted, all I can say if Perry Ellis looks old there is no doubt Cliff could easily be his uncle.:twitcy:

 

[theshadow]

Don't they have like 3 shared titles already in the 10 in a row?

2013 - KSU
2008 - Texas
2006 - Texas
2005 - Oklahoma

But do you EVER hear mention that those teams "won a conference title" in those years? No.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Such a fine line in college basketball. Obviously the Lost Saturday in Lubbock looms large, we knew it would the moment we lost. But the two results at Baylor are huge from an ISU perspective. Chery hits a tough, push-off assisted step-back and we lose by one. KU wins by one after Gathers blows it.

Of course, these little differences tend to go your way when you have confirmation bias in your favor.

 

[Spam]

2013 - KSU
2008 - Texas
2006 - Texas
2005 - Oklahoma

But do you EVER hear mention that those teams "won a conference title" in those years? No.

I don't hear that Kansas won a conference title in 2013, 2008, 2006 and 2005 either

 

[swarthmoreCY]

Maybe the big 12 will start scheduling the 2nd game later in the season now

I'd settle for just having them be Saturday primetime games. A Saturday in Hilton against KU is by far my favorite ISU game day.

 

[acgclone]

I don't hear that Kansas won a conference title in 2013, 2008, 2006 and 2005 either

What?

Their streak is referenced at least once in every major B12 televised game.... even the ones not featuring Kansas.

 

[Jacktronic]

I'd be thrilled with sharing it this year. Next year we win it outright.

 

[Skyh13]

Kansas losing 2 of its remaining games would be paramount to an all out "implosion". There is almost no way it happens.

ISU made it's bed when they lost to a team which can't beat KU. As many said then, despite how silly it sounded so early on, they basically handed KU the title after that game.

 

[erikbj]

Share the title and play in the big 12 champ. Fred and bill agree the winner can call themseleves champ and the loser cannot

 

[Gunnerclone]

I don't hear that Kansas won a conference title in 2013, 2008, 2006 and 2005 either

You should start watching CBB. It's great.

 

[HornacekFan1414]

Nothing wrong with sharing the title if it comes to that ( zillion times better than placing 2nd or 3rd), especially after we were predicted to finish between 3-6 by many media members

 

[Spam]

You should start watching CBB. It's great.

You should start following the clones instead of the jayhawks.

 

[Spam]

What?

Their streak is referenced at least once in every major B12 televised game.... even the ones not featuring Kansas.

the streak yes. But not those years specifically.

 

[jdoggivjc]

You should start following the clones instead of the jayhawks.

I don't follow the Jhoks. It's more like ESPN feels the need to refer to "the streak" every single time they air an ISU game.

the streak yes. But not those years specifically.

Ok, now that we know you're not a huge fan of common sense... :err: