News release: Hoiberg to undergo open heart surgery

ArgentCy

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I need to stop reading these threads because it makes my chest hurt just thinking about it. I do wonder how they caught some of these problems before they ever had a problem. Would a simple EKG test show you a heart valve problem? Best wishes and will wear #RedforFred tomorrow.
 

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I need to stop reading these threads because it makes my chest hurt just thinking about it. I do wonder how they caught some of these problems before they ever had a problem. Would a simple EKG test show you a heart valve problem? Best wishes and will wear #RedforFred tomorrow.

I had a heart murmur detected when I was about 13-14 years old during a routine physical, using a regular old stethoscope. Then had an Echocardiogram done when I reached 18 and it was determined that I had a bicuspid aortic valve (2 leaflet/doors on the valve instead of the normal 3), same thing Fred has. This caused the valve to not shut properly and allowed a regurgitation or backflow of blood back into the heart causing mine to become enlarged. After having annual Echo's, they were able to monitor the situation and in January, I was told that it was time to do something.

Fred's situation was different from mine in that he also had an aneurism on his aortic root. This was apparently addressed in the first surgery and this second one is to address the bicuspid valve.

Believe it or not, I was never really in an excruciating pain through the whole process. The pain management was incredible. I had the procedure done the day of the home Baylor basketball game in February and actually tried to watch the game that night on my phone before passing out from the drugs I was on. Probably best that I didn't catch that game...
 

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Unfortunately, I don't think Eliquis or Xarelto are approved for people with mechanical valves.
That may be true, I'm not sure. I know they are not good for someone with A-fib related to a heart valve problem, so maybe when you get it replaced with a mechanical one, they still cannot be used. Since my insurance will cover the Warfarin (and it appears to work for me so far) I have just stuck with it, despite the blood testing and minor diet restrictions.
 
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Wesley

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Honestly I'm shocked they are doing a surgery like this or anyone for that matter on Friday. Many hospitals have eliminated Friday surgeries all together. Higher rates of errors and infections occur on Friday. Many studies have pointed this out. Dr and nurses looking forward to weekend, distracted cause it's Friday etc.. Bet time to have any surgery is Tuesday at 7am, FYI.

not trying to freak anyone out it just surprised me to see Friday.
This is Mayo.
 

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Amazing stories from some of you. Thanks for sharing. Will be praying and thinking about Fred and family tomorrow. !
 

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I had my first heart attack in May of last year. Fortunately, I did not have to have any surgery, but I have been on the blood thinners like Fred will have to be on, probably for the rest of his life.

It's not too big of a deal. Not all of them require the food restrictions......Warfarin (Coumadin) is the one that requires you to watch your intake of green vegetables because of the Vitamin K they contain, which can counter the effects of the blood thinner. I've been on that since my heart attack, and it does require blood monitoring, which means you have to go in and give a blood sample every 2 to 4 weeks. The time difference is based on how you test. If the numbers are good....it might be 4 weeks until the next test....if they are not good......then they adjust the dosage and re-test sooner. Warfarin is sort of the generic for blood thinners. There are others, like Eliquis and Xarelto, that do not have the food restrictions and do not require the constant blood monitoring, but they are MUCH, MUCH more expensive than Warfarin. Some insurance companies don't even cover them, but I'm guessing CFH probably has a policy that does.

You do have to be a little more careful to avoid getting cut, or when you have any dental work, or other surgery. You just have to let people know that your blood will not clot as quickly as normal. And, as mentioned, you do bruise a lot more easily and the bruises seem to be a lot larger than normal, and stay with you longer.

He will have to make some adjustments, but I think he will do fine.

Good info. I'm curious about the symptoms when a heart attack occurs; is it painful, or subtle? Were you aware you were having a heart attack, or thought it might be something else?
 

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I'm sure by now Coach is recuperating and wish him the best.....

Can you imagine how many references from TV Sports Announcers we're gonna have to endure next season? This will make the "Nerlens Noel" references seem like faded memory....
 

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Unfortunately, I don't think Eliquis or Xarelto are approved for people with mechanical valves.

My old boss had a valve replacement done a few years ago. Healthy guy and they were monitoring it for a while. Did the surgery, got the mechanical valve, he was out of work for about a month, had the chest fully opened, etc... Couldn't do Xarelto like you mentioned.

His comment to me was when he was laying in bed he could hear his valve click. He said it was a little creepy at first. His kids thought it was funny.
 

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Good info. I'm curious about the symptoms when a heart attack occurs; is it painful, or subtle? Were you aware you were having a heart attack, or thought it might be something else?

Actually, I did not have the heart attack until after I got to the hospital. I was unconscious at the time, so I felt nothing.

I called 911 because for a couple of days I had noticed that my speech did not sound correct to me. I live alone, so when I started to notice it, I would read stuff out loud, and I just did not sound right. I called after a couple of days of this because I thought I might be having, or about to have a stroke.

It turned out that for a number of reasons, my pulse-ox reading was extremely low. Normally, it is supposed to be above 90. The more above 90 the better, up to 100. It is basically a reading of the percentage of oxygen in your blood. That is one thing that is measured by the little device they attack to your finger whenever you are in the hospital. My pulse ox that day when I was admitted was 49......not good at all, and I was kind of goofy acting. One of the nurses that worked on me told me later she really thought I was a goner because they could not get my breathing going.....and they almost had to intubate me. Glad I did not have to go through that.

The heart attack came when they were having trouble getting me to breathe properly once I was laying down on the table. I passed out, and while they were trying to revive me, I had the heart attack. So......I was not aware of any of the normal signs like pain in the left arm or chest, dizziness, shortness of breath, etc.

When I did feel the chest pain was in the next few days, at least once or twice a day.......usually at night. I was having trouble with afib, and the pain was from my heart just trying to get back to normal rhythm. Luckily, I did not have another heart attack. I can tell you this.....just feeling that pain.....I never want to have another heart attack. I have had several painful injuries, including broken arms, ribs, and breaking my nose twice, and this was probably worse than all of those put together.

What started the whole problem was that fluid had built up in my chest (from a number of causes) and my lungs and heart were not functioning properly.

I was in the hospital for 2 weeks, and then in a rehab facility for 30 days. I was in rehab so long primarily because I live alone, and they wanted to make sure I could get by on my own.

All in all......I was very lucky.
 
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