Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
Link to article where Fred said this?
Link to article where Fred said this?
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Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
I didn't say that he's ever said that. I was basing this on the assumption that he's leaving for the NBA. If he doesn't leave, then obviously I was wrong in my statement. I thought that was fairly obvious? Guess not.
I didn't say that he's ever said that. I was basing this on the assumption that he's leaving for the NBA. If he doesn't leave, then obviously I was wrong in my statement. I thought that was fairly obvious? Guess not.
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
I guess it depends on what freds goal was when taking the job. If it was just to get us back to the tourney, recreate the magic and make us relevant again then he has done what he set out to do. If it was to give us a final four or national title, he clearly has more to do.
Finally, the whole conversation annoys me because the guy is recovering from open heart surgery. He needs to recover from the surgery: not respond to stupid rumors from fanatics about him thinking about the Bulls job possibility. I wish people would just shut up and stop talking about this but I know no one will thus me putting out my worthless opinion on the situation. So feel free to ignore me and carry on.
I guess it depends on what freds goal was when taking the job. If it was just to get us back to the tourney, recreate the magic and make us relevant again then he has done what he set out to do. If it was to give us a final four or national title, he clearly has more to do.
Finally, the whole conversation annoys me because the guy is recovering from open heart surgery. He needs to recover from the surgery: not respond to stupid rumors from fanatics about him thinking about the Bulls job possibility. I wish people would just shut up and stop talking about this but I know no one will thus me putting out my worthless opinion on the situation. So feel free to ignore me and carry on.
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
I love Fred and will support him and don't think it is fair to have him carry our cross but right now he is that guy, and am sure that weight is a lot to carry.
Fred is to Ames as LeBron was to Cleveland. I would get over it but it would be the biggest blow ever, to think it wouldn't crush the cyclone spirit is naive. Could it be rebuilt? Sure, but it would crush us.
I love Fred and will support him and don't think it is fair to have him carry our cross but right now he is that guy, and am sure that weight is a lot to carry.
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
Well if he goes to the NBA, then we will all know exactly what the goal was. (getting to the nba)
Well if he goes to the NBA, then we will all know exactly what the goal was. (getting to the nba)
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
People need to realize Fred is an NBA guy. He played there for 10 years and worked there for however many years after that.
Obviously he still loves Iowa St, but his aspirations have always, and probably will always, be toward the NBA.
He's not the Coach K, Bob Knight, or Tom Izzo type, and that's fine, except that some people expected that out of him and now they are ****** he'd even consider leaving.
People need to realize Fred is an NBA guy. He played there for 10 years and worked there for however many years after that.
Obviously he still loves Iowa St, but his aspirations have always, and probably will always, be toward the NBA.
He's not the Coach K, Bob Knight, or Tom Izzo type, and that's fine, except that some people expected that out of him and now they are ****** he'd even consider leaving.
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
FWIW I also have sources that are saying Fred is all but gone. Mine is a former head coach at ISU.
FWIW I also have sources that are saying Fred is all but gone. Mine is a former head coach at ISU.
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
I agree about the recovering from surgery part. Fred doesn't owe any of us an answer as to what his plans are.
However, I do think Fred owes it to TJ and the potential recruits to let them know what his plans are, if he even has any plans yet? It will hurt recruiting if potential recruits have no idea if Fred will be back.
That's what has me a bit concerned too.... it seems like some of these transfers we've reached out to might know something that we don't, because they are going elsewhere. Harris is going to Auburn. Bielfeldt keeps looking around. There are others too that we've seemingly missed out on as well. So maybe Fred has told them that he doesn't plan on being here? Who knows? Nobody, except for Fred likely.
I agree about the recovering from surgery part. Fred doesn't owe any of us an answer as to what his plans are.
However, I do think Fred owes it to TJ and the potential recruits to let them know what his plans are, if he even has any plans yet? It will hurt recruiting if potential recruits have no idea if Fred will be back.
That's what has me a bit concerned too.... it seems like some of these transfers we've reached out to might know something that we don't, because they are going elsewhere. Harris is going to Auburn. Bielfeldt keeps looking around. There are others too that we've seemingly missed out on as well. So maybe Fred has told them that he doesn't plan on being here? Who knows? Nobody, except for Fred likely.
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Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
Is that a Floyd to Bulls joke or have you actually been in touch with one of the former coaches?
I don't know what to believe anymore!
Is that a Floyd to Bulls joke or have you actually been in touch with one of the former coaches?
I don't know what to believe anymore!
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
Impressive that you communicate with Johnny's ghost.
Impressive that you communicate with Johnny's ghost.
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
He said head coach at ISU...not head men's basketball ball coach.
He said head coach at ISU...not head men's basketball ball coach.
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
It's actually serious. Former ISU head coach, though not in basketball.
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Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
That's true, but my question still stands.
That's true, but my question still stands.
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
Where is the love for ISU if he leave when we are coming in to a season with our highest preseason rank ever. Where is the love when he is personally hindering our ability to improve our roster. If he really loved ISU he would accomplish something here first when the roster is set up to do so.
I get that Fred is an NBA guy, but these jobs open all of the time. 42 coaches have been fired in the last 5 years, only 3 have been in same spot for 5 years.
Where is the love for ISU if he leave when we are coming in to a season with our highest preseason rank ever. Where is the love when he is personally hindering our ability to improve our roster. If he really loved ISU he would accomplish something here first when the roster is set up to do so.
I get that Fred is an NBA guy, but these jobs open all of the time. 42 coaches have been fired in the last 5 years, only 3 have been in same spot for 5 years.
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
im going to guess gibbons. His kids go to Gilbert.
None of this is hard to figure out.
im going to guess gibbons. His kids go to Gilbert.
None of this is hard to figure out.
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
Is that assuming Thibs is gone? Otherwise haven't Pop, Carlisle, Spoelstra, and Thibs been at their current job for five years? ?
Is that assuming Thibs is gone? Otherwise haven't Pop, Carlisle, Spoelstra, and Thibs been at their current job for five years? ?
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
Another 15 hours of jsb meltdown is officially underway.
Another 15 hours of jsb meltdown is officially underway.
Re: REPORT: Alvin Gentry, not Fred Hoiberg, favorite to replace Tom Thibodeau
It might be unfair of me, but those are my thoughts as well.
If he leaves, then I feel his goal was to use ISU as a stepping stone to the NBA, and he didn't really have any other goals to achieve at ISU. Obviously he wanted to do well here, but mostly so that NBA teams would come a knockin'.
Or, he's not as competitive as I thought, and he's fine with leaving here before he's achieved his goals. Unless his goal was to get to one Sweet Sixteen, but if that's all his goal was, then he doesn't set his goals very high IMO.
If Fred leaves his guys high and dry right now, then I think it means his own goals of reaching the NBA were the most important to him. If that's the case, then fine. So be it. He'd go down as just another Gene Chizik in the sense that his allegiance to ISU ended as soon as a better gig came calling. Obviously Fred is a million times more loyal to this school, and means WAY more to it's fans than Chizik, but in a sense, that is what it would be saying IMO.
It might be unfair of me, but those are my thoughts as well.
If he leaves, then I feel his goal was to use ISU as a stepping stone to the NBA, and he didn't really have any other goals to achieve at ISU. Obviously he wanted to do well here, but mostly so that NBA teams would come a knockin'.
Or, he's not as competitive as I thought, and he's fine with leaving here before he's achieved his goals. Unless his goal was to get to one Sweet Sixteen, but if that's all his goal was, then he doesn't set his goals very high IMO.
If Fred leaves his guys high and dry right now, then I think it means his own goals of reaching the NBA were the most important to him. If that's the case, then fine. So be it. He'd go down as just another Gene Chizik in the sense that his allegiance to ISU ended as soon as a better gig came calling. Obviously Fred is a million times more loyal to this school, and means WAY more to it's fans than Chizik, but in a sense, that is what it would be saying IMO.
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