Yep. Thats the problem the Bulls have had under Thibs... they have relied on being the "try hard" team; outworking everyone. And that is all well and good until you run into Miami (and now Cleveland) who had/has that guy who is the best player on the planet.
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Yep. Thats the problem the Bulls have had under Thibs... they have relied on being the "try hard" team; outworking everyone. And that is all well and good until you run into Miami (and now Cleveland) who had/has that guy who is the best player on the planet.
Maybe Thibs argues with the annointed front office too much so that they do not want to deal with him. Loose cannons can be great, but sometimes they need to be silenced.
Anyone have stats on most posts/minute or hour of thread being open, with a minimum of 100 posts? This thread has to dominate that category.
Come on guys....You wouldn't chase your dream for lots more money and a chance to showcase your skills at the highest level in one of the largest markets?
Ego? Nah. I see it as a opportunity too good to pass up.
Self and Dave Rice have been recruiting equivalents the last few years and both have out recruited Fred by a mile. Self has performed miles ahead of Dave as has Fred. Self has had only marginally better results on the court than Fred too despite the huge talent advantage. That should tell us all we need to know about why Fred is so coveted and why we really want him as our coach next year. He IS the major reason for our success. He gets guys to play as a team, buy in to the system and play a role and he is an offensive genius. I originally thought it may be better long term for him to go now rather than a year or 2 but the more I think about it the more I want Fred as our coach next year regardless. 2 years would be manageable 3 ideal. We could do all right for 16' with a 3 year big buyout clause that starts decreasing in year 4. Ideally I think Fred is worth it to give him a 5m a to year contract w/ a 5m buyout. If we have to choose between keeping Rhoads and not being able to keep Fred because firing Paul and keeping Fred will both cost a lot. I say we keep both, hell it may even work out in our favor.
I don't know if that is true. They have never been completely healthy and the series was really close with the cavs... I don't think that this Bulls team beating the Cavs and then Atlanta would be a stretch to make the NBA Finals.
And FH taking that job would be a heck of a lot better than taking the Wolves, Pelicans or Magic job.
Just saying. not that I want him to leave, but just trying to be realistic.
My response was to how the current situation has fallen apart at Chicago, not Fred's choice to take the job. I do, however, stand behind the statement that egos often ruin what would be seen as a successful partnership in terms of results.
Miss interpretation on my part. Egos are defiantly playing a part in the Bulls organization.
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I just find it funny that a reason to point to the Bullz job as a good job is it's "an easier path to the finals" because it's in the East. It's all relative. The Bulls aren't any better than teams 3-8 in the East than Rockets are better than teams 3-8 in the west. Basically it's just as hard for a #2 in the east Bullz to get to the finals as it is for the #2 in the west Rockets to get to the finals becuase while the teams 3-8 in the east aren't as good as teams 3-8 in the west, the Bullz aren't as good as team #2 in the west either but the Chicago media just assumes that it is because you know, Chicago.
Because one of the very main reasons the franchise player has only played half the games is directly related to the coach playing his best players into the ground. Noah looks beyond done at 30 due to the minutes he's played.
Losing rose gave him the opportunity to get the bulls in the lottery. He ran his team intothe ground to get a 4 seed, and dismissed easily by Washington. Philly was awful, as every eastern conference 8 seed is. Losing your best player hurts to no end. But the fact that he was hurt when they had a big lead late in the 4th, and they rolled over because they had no way to score the ball, doesn't speak well of how he manages his team.
If I'm the pelicans, there is no way I'd want him within 10 franchises of AD. It's not real likely he will stay past the first extension. Put a coach that's going to play him into the ground increasing the chance of injury? Hell no
They had the Cavs without Varejao, without Love, without JR Smith for two games, with a banged up Kyrie. If you can't get them at that point, you're not going to beat them when they're at full strength. Chicago isn't going to get much better going forward. Gasol, Noah and Gibson are all on the downside of their career with a lot of miles on them, Rose is not getting back to MVP level. Dunleavy is probably gone. I don't know how much better Butler can get, I don't think they are really close to being a championship level team.
Nice to know that its' not only Cyclone Nation that is in denial about the state of their program right now.
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