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I might be in the minority, but I would rather retain Mann over TJ. For one, TJ will be looking to leave. Secondly, if you've listened to Fred's post game comments over the last two seasons it sounds like Cornell lead a ton of the scouting and game planning. For that reason alone I would like him back. He can also the be the bridge to Prohm that TJ was to Fred

Fwiw, Fred has mentioned in couple interviews that TJ did those things when he was Assoc HC here under Fred
 

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Who knows, but I am sure that they had extensive discussions about the money to be put into the basketball program over the last few weeks, and if they were considering spending upwards of $3 million for just a coach, the money is there is they want to use it that way. They've already saved some money for the head coach, so they could potentially do this without changing the overall outlay that they had with Fred's staff.

We have to think about future raises for Prohm too if successful, $1.5m isn't going to keep him around if he has success for the next 3 years. I'm sure ticket prices will keep rising but not sure how much that will cover. We may need to bump that to $2.5 to keep other schools away. I'm interested to see what the buyouts are for the contract. Considering Pollard said he was thinking about 2, 3, 4 years from now for the program, I would hope he made the college buyout pretty large. I don't see NBA teams coming for Prohm very hard these first few years so that one doesn't matter too much, probably could make it the same as it was for Fred.
 

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We have to think about future raises for Prohm too if successful, $1.5m isn't going to keep him around if he has success for the next 3 years. I'm sure ticket prices will keep rising but not sure how much that will cover. We may need to bump that to $2.5 to keep other schools away. I'm interested to see what the buyouts are for the contract. Considering Pollard said he was thinking about 2, 3, 4 years from now for the program, I would hope he made the college buyout pretty large. I don't see NBA teams coming for Prohm very hard these first few years so that one doesn't matter too much, probably could make it the same as it was for Fred.

Well, Fred's salary was to increase every year for ten years, correct? I realize that you need room for bonuses, etc., but I assume the old staff had that kind of thing too.
 

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I might be in the minority, but I would rather retain Mann over TJ. For one, TJ will be looking to leave. Secondly, if you've listened to Fred's post game comments over the last two seasons it sounds like Cornell lead a ton of the scouting and game planning. For that reason alone I would like him back. He can also the be the bridge to Prohm that TJ was to Fred

Mann is the better coach, TJ is the better recruiter or at least the role they played here indicted such
 

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I might be in the minority, but I would rather retain Mann over TJ. For one, TJ will be looking to leave. Secondly, if you've listened to Fred's post game comments over the last two seasons it sounds like Cornell lead a ton of the scouting and game planning. For that reason alone I would like him back. He can also the be the bridge to Prohm that TJ was to Fred

I'm fairly confident Mann wants to be an HC just as badly as TJ does.
 

Gunnerclone

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Seems a lot bigger deal for the AD to hire his buddies than the HC. In nearly every mention of TJ, Fred and JP both brought up their personal relationship with him.

Well it seems Leath's premise was that he needs to be involved because the decision involved a top 2 or 3 paid public employee, but the hiring of probably 3 of the top 10-15ish? paid public employees doesn't need his intervention? When you add the assistants salaries together it probably puts the total in the top 10 salaries of the state. I would think he would want to be in on that as well.
 

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Well, Fred's salary was to increase every year for ten years, correct? I realize that you need room for bonuses, etc., but I assume the old staff had that kind of thing too.

I guess we were already spending ~$620k so $800k seems reasonable. I'd personally pay double the price of my current season tickets to keep them.
 

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Well it seems Leath's premise was that he needs to be involved because the decision involved a top 2 or 3 paid public employee, but the hiring of probably 3 of the top 10-15ish? paid public employees doesn't need his intervention? When you add the assistants salaries together it probably puts the total in the top 10 salaries of the state. I would think he would want to be in on that as well.

assistants are probably not in the top 15 in the state. Univ of Iowa medical school faculty will likely make up most of that list....
 

NATEizKING

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Well it seems Leath's premise was that he needs to be involved because the decision involved a top 2 or 3 paid public employee, but the hiring of probably 3 of the top 10-15ish? paid public employees doesn't need his intervention? When you add the assistants salaries together it probably puts the total in the top 10 salaries of the state. I would think he would want to be in on that as well.

A lot of UofI professors make $300k+, it took me a few pages to realize I should just search the names of our assistants. They might crack the top 100.
 

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If the names being thrown around as assistants come true, then I don't think we have a whole lot to worry about if TJ and Mann depart. Sure TJ staying would be great but if Chew or Fuller(doubtful) is brought in then we will be just fine recruiting wise.
 

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The previous three assistants were in the combined $620-630k range. I would expect Prohm's three to be in the 600k-650k range.
 

acgclone

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The previous three assistants were in the combined $620-630k range. I would expect Prohm's three to be in the 600k-650k range.

Our previous coaching staff was relatively inexperienced. Henry has a high ceiling but virtually no previous coaching experience. Matt A, was a Fred buddy, but virtually zero coaching input and very shaky HS recruiting ties. Mann was the only one with some experience.

I don't see Prohm getting a staff with Small and Chew + one other, for less than $750k.
 

NATEizKING

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I've been trying to find how much Small was making, I'd have to think we could get him relatively cheap?

MA salary was $220k for the record, so 2014 was ~$600k and with TJ we were looking ~620k.
 

acgclone

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I've been trying to find how much Small was making, I'd have to think we could get him relatively cheap?

MA salary was $220k for the record.

Gotta figure $250-275k for Small and $300-325k+ for Chew right?