Cheick Diallo & KU - Ineligible?

GTO

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Shouldn't you be off somewhere crying about ISU losses that occurred multiple years ago (being butthurt)?
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It is all about being coachable, but coachablity begins with humility. Over the years I have seen some incredibly talented players who never reach their full potential simply due to a lack of humility and coachablity. Regardless of whether you go through a change in teammates, coaches or coaching philosophy at the college or professional level, coachablity is one of the most critical traits in career advancement.

Love this argument and could take it to the Jackson vs Simpson comparison. BDJ was talented, but too much attitude.
 

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So what would your opinion be if Diallo had committed to Iowa State?

Exactly the same. If they are not bright enough for college, hasta la vista. We have dumbed the schools down enough, no need to accelerate the process.
 

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Exactly the same. If they are not bright enough for college, hasta la vista. We have dumbed the schools down enough, no need to accelerate the process.

Let's face it. Diallo is going to make more his first year out of school without a degree than most college grads make their whole lives
 

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Let's face it. Diallo is going to make more his first year out of school without a degree than most college grads make their whole lives
I hope he makes tons of money. But his salary short term and long term will not be based on what he learns in college courses. Therefore, he should not be a college student.
 

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The issue isn't with Diallo's scores or intelligence its with the classes (or lack thereof) he took at that high school. His ACT/SAT was good enough to get into college and he has already completed college classes. No he shouldn't be a college student but the NBAPA bargained away his rights to work in the NBA, thus we are left with the sham of 1 and dones. Also your last statement is moronic. Niang's Morris' and McKay's salaries will not be based on what they learn in college courses, thus by your logic they shouldn't be on college either.
 
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randomfan44

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Exactly the same. If they are not bright enough for college, hasta la vista. We have dumbed the schools down enough, no need to accelerate the process.

This delay has nothing to do with Diallo. It is about his school and what courses they offer. All of his grades and test scores are fine. He has been accepted as a student at Kansas and has already completed classes over the summer. I find it comical that the ncaa states that they are not in the business of determining the validity of COLLEGE courses taken by ncaa athletes:

http://www.syracuse.com/orangebaske...yracuse_case_was_in_the_ncaas_wheelhouse.html

but they are apparently in the business of determining the validity of high school courses.
 

randomfan44

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I hope he makes tons of money. But his salary short term and long term will not be based on what he learns in college courses. Therefore, he should not be a college student.

All your doing is proving that some colleges also allow stupid people who aren't athletes to get degrees.
 

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Let's face it. Diallo is going to make more his first year out of school without a degree than most college grads make their whole lives

What's your our point? That doesn't mean he should be able to skip the requirements. This isn't the NAIA.
 

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Please think. It influences how well you do on the SAT/ACT. As getting to play college sports is based on that criteria along with grades, your dumbness leading to low ACT/SAT scores can be offset by higher grades at a "special" school. Care to speculate on the graduation rate of those attending those "special" schools. They are not worthy of being accepted into college.

You can be intelligent and do well on the SAT/ACT while still having attended a crappy school. The school doesn't determine your intelligence. Your willingness to study does.
 

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I hope he makes tons of money. But his salary short term and long term will not be based on what he learns in college courses. Therefore, he should not be a college student.

Let's be honest here. The majority of people's short and long term earning aren't based on what they learn in college courses. Nearly every company has a training program that teaches you what you need to know to do your job. Does that mean most people shouldn't be college students?
 
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randomfan44

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What's your our point? That doesn't mean he should be able to skip the requirements. This isn't the NAIA.
Again, this isn't about how well Diallo did in school. It is about what classes his high school offered to him and how they classified them. To which I fall back on my original argument which is the direct quote from the President of the NCAA: "Anybody who has ever spent time at a university, if you ask them, should an official from the NCAA walk in and say that's not a good enough class? That's a laughable proposition," Emmert said. "We never want a national association to become arbiter of (course) legitimacy." If it's not their job to determine the validity of a college class and whether it is too easy or the required grade to play is too easy to attain then why on earth is it their job to determine that in regards to a HIGH SCHOOL?!?
 

randomfan44

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No leap, if you go to a HS that is not even recognized as a real school, you are dumb. Do you know his SAT score?
His SAT score was high enough to be admitted to the University so that is not the problem. If your high school says "here are the English classes we offer this year" and you take one of them and get a good grade in it only to have the ncaa says "we aren't going to count that English class as an English class" then how is it that you're dumb? I applaud you for sticking to your guns but you're defending a stupid point.
 

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You can be intelligent and do well on the SAT/ACT while still having attended a crappy school. The school doesn't determine your intelligence. Your willingness to study does.
Which is exactly why Perry Ellis has volunteered to be Diallo's personal academic advisor/tudor.
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