If this season doesn't turn around, then I agree with you. However, there is no benefit to firing him mid-season.
Let's have a serious discussion about CPR
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If this season doesn't turn around, then I agree with you. However, there is no benefit to firing him mid-season.
Well, we sucked last year and we still nearly beat Texas and Kansas State. I'd say Toledo, Kansas, Texas Tech, Texas and Kansas State are all winnable. Probably won't be favored in any of them, but they are games we could win.
Or maybe in JP's analysis of the situation he can see positives that the random message board poster can't see. You guys make it seem like JP grew up with CPR, Otz, McD, etc and were life long friends before they were hired.
Agree it's not a problem when both parties are performing at an acceptable level. When one falters, the friendship typically delays the proper decision.
He has never once demonstrated he can do what needs to be done. Some want to believe JP is the all knowing AD God at ISU and some want to believe he is spineless. I fall somewhere in the middle.
As a side note, what would you say is a positive in the last 26 games?
I don't feel that JP is an AD God, but I do trust he will do his job.
I'm not getting into a debate on whether CPR stays or goes because thats not my job, my job as a fan is to support my team to the best of my ability.
Respectfully I will say that supporting the players and the team is still completely possible while questioning the direction of the staff. I very rarely criticize the kids, but talking about the staff is not being a bad fan or not supporting the team.
You mentioned that he can see some positives that we can't. I'm curious about what positive takes we should be seeing. That to me is not the same as supporting/criticizing CPR/staff. Maybe this is not the thread for it, but I would love to hear a former players take.
If this is CPR's last year, JP has Iowa State in 10x better shape than it was when CPR was hired in terms of facilities, Stadium, fan support.
I feel that supporting the coaches while they are coaches at ISU is also what I as a fan should be doing.
And it basically took the president of the university stepping in to stop JP from hiring Otz. I agree with your point but it's not a good example.
For this season, and into the future, I'm okay with our coaching staff...I ask you...who else could do better? Who would make the sacrifice to come to ISU and lead us to relevancy? I'll going to get crushed for this, but I felt the the need to express my view on these issues...
I think I've read this whole thread and wanted to give all you CFers props. I don't think anyone has said "how much do you donate, or get out your wallet". Proud of you guys. #babysteps #progress
CycloneErik
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You forgot to type "We are Iowa State."
We've been bad. That doesn't mean we settle for it. If we're going to play in the big boy divisions with scholarships and everything, we need to at least aim for average.
This. Our recent JT upgrades and weight room, and practice facility all suggest that we don't want to settle for a mediocre product.
Haven't been reading through all of these threads, but am I the only one who thinks if CPR goes, we are actually a sort of OK job at least compared to 5-8 years ago? We now have a big time stadium which is 3rd in Big 12 capacity, our budget is now competitive with the rest of the league, and our facilities have all been upgraded fairly recently. Also, our fan base is crazy loyal and growing, and the expectations are just to get to a crappy bowl game most years and don't get blown out very often. We still aren't in a state with a good recruiting base, but we do have the natural Texas connection, but it's not like we expect to compete for a Big 12 championship.
The top tier coaches wouldn't come here of course, but am I crazy to think a lot of coaches see what we have and think "All I have to do is win 6-7 games to be a success? I can do that." In the past when there have been discussions about firing the coaches, the attitude by many has been "We're little Iowa State we can't do better", and I could kind of see that argument. But I think I'm having a hard time buying that nowadays.
The top tier coaches wouldn't come here of course, but am I crazy to think a lot of coaches see what we have and think "All I have to do is win 6-7 games to be a success? I can do that." In the past when there have been discussions about firing the coaches, the attitude by many has been "We're little Iowa State we can't do better", and I could kind of see that argument. But I think I'm having a hard time buying that nowadays.
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