I don't get it either. JP surely knew when he hired him, what an icon Fred was to Cyclone Nation and that pretty much everybody else would play second fiddle especially if Fred was successful.
REFUTED: Travis Hines: A look into the ISU BBall program and the Athletic Dept
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I don't get it either. JP surely knew when he hired him, what an icon Fred was to Cyclone Nation and that pretty much everybody else would play second fiddle especially if Fred was successful.
Just throwing this out there. If the Athletic Department would like to give me some basketball tickets, I would happily pay the taxes and not go all Deep Throat with the Ames Trib and Keith Murphy.
In a way I agree it's kind of lame to ask for money but not want to accept the ramifications of it, but on the other hand, if I asked for, and got, a raise I felt I deserved, I'd be annoyed if I felt every time budget issues came up my boss said 'Sorry, we gave Bozo over there a big raise so we have no money'.
Just like Keith told CW. Just don't say anything. Or at the very least be a team, because it takes two to contract...or something like that.
maybe i am misinterpreting but the point was not that these were some horrible conditions, but rather would a big-time program have done it? its sort of the same as the contract comments- you are talking like a top 10 program with an elite coach, but are your actions actually backing it up?
One of the most frustrating parts of this is the media is not looking at this objectively at all. They are out to defend Hines. I've seen a few national college basketball bloggers and reporters share the story and compliment Hines on his research. It's frustrating and gross to see them pass this off as quality journalism because he's part of the boy's club. Even Murphy and Garman are going out of their way to defend the article when it is so obvious that it's nothing more than petty complaints and overblown anecdotes from disgruntled former employees.
Not to mention some of the inaccuracies and contradictions in the telling of the story. This was internal gossip pushed to print as 'newsworthy' by an ******* editor and an ambitious young reporter. Hines should stick to recruiting, but with Abdelmassih gone, he no longer has the inside scoop on that either. His sources within the program are gone, so Hines had nothing to lose.
Not to mention some of the inaccuracies and contradictions in the telling of the story. This was internal gossip pushed to print as 'newsworthy' by an ******* editor and an ambitious young reporter. Hines should stick to recruiting, but with Abdelmassih gone, he no longer has the inside scoop on that either. His sources within the program are gone, so Hines had nothing to lose.
A sports talk radio host couldn't come up with enough evidence to run a story? Those guys have zero standards and are not journalists so for them to not mention it - and drive their ratings way high - should tell you something about the veracity of the facts - the vast majority of which have been proven wrong.
10% of the population will always believe the conspiracies whether its the moon landing, 9/11, Jews drinking the blood of muslims, Bill Clinton drug-fueled sex romps, Col Sanders and his chicken additive, etc...
Oh great, just what we needed, Johnnynumbnuts the wisconsin hawkeye. As I said to another troll earlier, go **** yourself.
I really doubt any program would spend money just so their players could hang out in a hotel room when they could be hanging out anywhere else in freaking Hawaii.
I don't think anyone think there wasn't some kind of tension at times between the basketball staff/HC and the AD. But it was pretty sensationalized by Hines with his examples. When your lead example is "the AD made people sleep on the floor because they were too cheap to buy a hotel room" and it turns out they needed to kill 3 hours before heading to the airport, it kills credibility of your story.
And who knows if Murphy's sources are the same disgruntled ones as Hines? Clearly some people had an axe to grind. And when you have a direct quote from a source saying maybe it was the reason for Hoiberg leaving, that's really hard to take seriously when the examples you've used were so sensationalized.
Again, I think there is some truth to the story. But it was WAY overblown.
I think you're right, but isn't that really petty for a program that has only made it to the Sweet 16? Is the fact that some assistants were annoyed with having to wait for their flight really newsworthy? This is Iowa State, not Kentucky or Duke or North Carolina or even Texas. So assistants thought they were entitled to better treatment? **** them. That's not the reason Fred left like the article would have you believe. Hines framed this story to exaggerate and mislead. That was the only thing that was "mid-major" or "bush league" in this story.
We were in Hawaii a few years ago and checked out at noon. Many of the flights are red-eye to LAX with departures @ 6pm, as was ours'
We found a few things to do that afternoon. Fred said they went swimming.
A lot ado about nothing
Don't play dumb. You aren't an ISU fan. Your $.02 are not needed. Stick to the rivalry forum.
I find it disturbing that Hoiberg was apparently willing to be quoted in the article as saying it was BS, but Hines doesn't include that.
All Murphy really corroborated was that he heard the same rumors, likely from the same unnamed sources (my words, not his). Surprise! Malcontents tell anybody they can their story! Shocker.
Murphy, unlike Travis Hack, knew there wasn't enough for a story.
I have a hard time believing a multi million dollar organization ran by rich people with giant egos being very defensive about a fake story doesn't have something to hide.
So what if they were in Dayton instead of Hawaii? People are completely missing the point. It's the principle of it.
