I am not one of those who says it can not be done........even though it has never been done at Iowa State.
ISU Football & Unrealistic Expectations
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I am not one of those who says it can not be done........even though it has never been done at Iowa State.
Are people still around defending Rhoads? Are we puffing chests for moral victories and good losses again?
but we are so close. but the refs, but the coverage, but playcalling, but we did not know it was third down....
First, we as a fanbase are a very good to great fanbase. We are a fanbase that has expectations that are commensurate with where our teams are currently at - we have a very good basketball team so we have lofty goals. We have a bad football team so our goals are to be competitive and a bowl game. Much of the fanbase was the same way with McDoormat - he would have been around at least another year if Creighton had not bailed us out. So the fanbase is the fanbase - we are not different from basketball to football. Blaming the fanbase is not a good argument - one of the few attractive things we have going for us is the level of support we give our teams including this bad football coaching staff.
CPR has made plenty of mistakes. Not puffing out my chest. I have observed pretty decent play the last few games. Not sure it would be wise to just fire CPR and replace him with whomever. Understand the frustration. At the same time, there are many factors to consider. Also understand, that if a change is made that we are married to that change for the next several years, no matter what.
if you want change in the football program the fans need to quit attending games. If the stadium averages over 50,000 fans per game and is still close to sold out in November, you will be hard pressed to have a change of leadership in the football program. I do not see our fans abandoning this program. Therefore Rhoads will be back. Football is about money first and foremost for the administration at ISU or any other college team. Winning is secondary as long as the money keeps coming in. As evidenced by over 54,000 fans yesterday, the money is still flowing. There is your problem. ISU has great fan support. Too many fans still support this team including myself. You are fighting a losing battle to unseat Rhoads as the coach this year.
The game is played on the field and not in the stands. The support was great. Leading 24-7, any reasonable fan base would expect to win. Rhoads lost again and he will be lucky to win next two on the roads.
This is true, BUT, ISU has proven that you can grind the optimism out of even the most loyal fan base. The last time we were averaging over 50K per game was the late 70's early 80's. Indifferent ISU administrations with extremely low football IQs killed the goose that layed the golden eggs and salted the earth with nearly 20 years of awful football. That's how large crowds of fans became small crowds of intensely loyal fans. We shall see if the current President has different ideas than previous leaders. It's going to be a fascinating 3-4 weeks coming up.
If I had a dollar for every time a fan or certain media member who owns this website told people that "We are Iowa State and we will never compete with the Texas's and Oklahomas of CFB" we'd be able to afford a buyout and a solid coaching staff...this talk is BS yet it continues every year, no wonder we can't attract talent with this sort of self image. He's even at it with the basketball team already stating that this current team is the best he will probably see in his lifetime hahahahahaha it's a good thing this website and his opinions are free.
What's unrealistic about averaging 6 wins/season over an extended period of time - some seasons taking a step forward and winning 7, 8, or perhaps more games, other years taking a step back when we have to retool? We were doing that the first four years we thought Rhoads was ISU's savior. Since then.... Yeah.
Anyone that thinks we shouldn't expect better than 8-26 since 2013 is either a gawdawful troll or is an ISU fan I don't want associated with us.
Anyone that thinks we shouldn't expect better than 8-26 since 2013 is either a gawdawful troll or is an ISU fan I don't want associated with us.
I agree the next 3-4 weeks will be fascinating. If ISU is competitive in the last two games I think Rhoads will be given another year. It's unfortunate for the fans that want him gone, that the last two games are on the road. If they were at home, you would probably see some declining attendance. But since we have already played our last home game, I don't see that there will be enough evidence to support kicking Rhoads to the curb. Again, it's about money first and we already have received the benefit of a full year of attendance above 50,000 fans per game. In my opinion Rhoads survives even with two more losses as long as we are competitive against both KSU & WVU.
One of the main problems is that when our running game is contained, we show the inability to switch to a short passing game as an adjustment. Swing passes to Mike and Trevor should be utilized when the box is loaded with defenders. Just how stupid can our staff be? Adjust, staff. In fact, just start the second half with a different plan from the first half. Or do we only have one plan on the books.
You're right, really no pool of talent in the coaching universe. There's probably nobody really motivated to be a CEO of a P5 program who could make a life changing $2M guaranteed for five years. In all the football I watched yesterday, I really didn't see coordinators who were innovative and players who looked like they had been taught well to block, tackle, run routes. I didn't see any evidence of coaches who know how to manage the clock and situations. There's really no Justin Fuente or Tom Herman type sleepers out there who haven't broken through to become candidates for prime jobs. It's probably impossible for someone who knows what they're doing to evaluate the jobs being done at 128 or so Division 1 schools by head coaches and assistants and find someone who can achieve a .400 winning percentage. Our guy grew up 15 minutes away, he likes Ames. Let's just keep him.
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This post sucks the wind out of me. Rhoads is stacking bad losses on top of poor recruiting on top of poor coaching. This guy makes $1.8 million per year and does nothing but whine about how hard his job is. Enough is enough.
At the beginning of the season, I said 5 wins is probably enough improvement to justify another year. Nothing has changed since then.
When we fill the stands for a loser, it tells the AD that we don't care about results and they have no incentive to initiate change.
